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Apr 14, 2018 11:09:00   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
jimpack123 wrote:
JUST FOLLOW THE LAW TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY PRESIDENT


If he was the best suited for the position with proven record of success, why not??
I also believe an independant or libertarian should be allowed to vote in primaries too!!

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Apr 14, 2018 11:12:21   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
AMEN

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Apr 14, 2018 11:13:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
jimpack123 wrote:
strong words coming from a Nixon wannabe supporter the traitor is Trump and the GOP


Hi Jim, See your new, welcome and enjoy..

Good people, great topics.,
If you use the quote reply button people will know to whom you are writing..

Just a suggestion to help..

While I disagree with your assessment I’ll just say Trump is no traitor..

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Apr 14, 2018 11:15:09   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
lindajoy wrote:
Hi Jim, See your new, welcome and enjoy..

Good people, great topics.,
If you use the quote reply button people will know to whom you are writing..

Just a suggestion to help..


thank you for the suggestion

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Apr 14, 2018 14:17:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
jimpack123 wrote:
thank you for the suggestion


Your Welcome...

Nice to have you here..

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Apr 14, 2018 16:36:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
lindajoy wrote:
Many only care that what the BS politicans put us through are stopped!!

Who the figurehead is is not the issue, its country!!!Its spending, its accountability, its swift action to correct the problems of our country..
Its adherance to our Constitution..
Its majority rules not political hacks looking to leave multi-millionaires off the sacrifice of the people..

So far Predident Trump has demonstrated his America First stance and honored his campaign promises.. He has succeeded in the wake of strong opposition, obstruction and destructionist... As example take his weeks activities:Mexico illegals enroute, he tells the President stop it or lose NAFTA, he stops it.. China, were leving tariffs, China talks big then comes back with well get our steele/aluminum trade straighten out, lower car trade tariffs, etc.. Syrian rebellion disregard of the signed treaty agreement, no chemical warfare.. Once again they use it we form a coalition show Assad we will not tolerate chemical weapons attacks.. The absolute right decision... If we allow it we sign our own death warrant..As does every other country!!

This is not a President working against our Nation it is a man who puts America First and doesnt just talk he actually acts on his warnings and if the world leaders no nothing else they do know he will act.. I say Thank You, Mr. President!! Perfect strategy in all three decisions!!!

Is he the best no, but he gets things done and hes mot afrsid to tavkle criminal hillbin the process.. With results as weve just witnessed you bet I™ll support him!!!
Many only care that what the BS politicans put us ... (show quote)




seems the orange fluff screaming for everyone to look else where works on some of you..

the caravan-- like all the other years, it finished and concluded as they all have. In Mexico...

Had nothing to do with trump running his mouth..

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-caravan-panic-misinformed-play-his-base-experts-say-872243

Earlier this week, a caravan of immigrants making its way to the United States border sent President Donald Trump into a frenzy over what he sees as Mexicos inabilitynay, refusalto stop Central Americans from crossing the southern border illegally.

"Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S.," Trump tweeted Sunday. "They laugh at our dumb immigration laws."

But Mexico is hardly laughing, experts told Newsweek. Research shows the country is detaining and deporting Central American immigrants in roughly the same numbers as the U.S., and often even surpassing the U.S. What's more, Mexico continues to devote resources to breaking up drug cartels and organized crime, the fear of which drives many immigrants to head north for refuge.

"Mexico has been doing far more to stop Central Americans from crossing the border than we have been doing," Shannon O'Neil, senior fellow for Latin American studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, told Newsweek.

Mexican officials went to lengths to break up the caravan on Tuesday, according to The Washington Post, which reported that immigration officers took a census at an encampment in Oaxaca, asking migrants for papers. Some were granted temporary legal permits requiring them to leave Mexico in 20 days, while others were permitted to apply for Mexican asylum.

On Wednesday, the Mexican Foreign Ministry reported that officials repatriated some 400 caravan migrants, sending them back to their native countries. "Under no circumstance does the government of Mexico promote illegal migration," the foreign ministry told CNN in a statement.

O'Neil said Trump need only look back a few years for evidence of how U.S.Mexico border security has improved. In 2014, the U.S. wrestled with what to do with the more than 68,000 children who had crossed the southern border, many of them unaccompanied. At the time, politicians and pundits sent truckloads of food, water and toys to the border for the children in attempts to mitigate what President Barack Obama deemed an "urgent humanitarian situation."

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China is stomping all over the farmers and ag business in the proposed payback tariffs.. No, not yet in place..

did you see trumps pathetic speech to the farmers who have suffered already from income collapse due to his screwing around with tariffs and with NAFTA??

He thanked them for being great Americans to accept the cost of policies.. He said he will make it up to them later.... some how... as he hustled off the stage..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Syria---- this is puzzling... Why did Assad gas his, or any people.. that civil war is essentially over and he, with Russian help won.. why do this and get bombed???

When President Obama wanted to bomb Syria, he went to congress, they would not do it.. trump did not go to congress, though he was among those who insisted it was the thing for Obama to do..

However, as fate would have it, President Obama did get what he demanded.. strangely, thanks to Russia..

As for trump motive..... I have not heard a word about the raid on his lawyer or the contents of the trump noose..









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Apr 14, 2018 17:45:35   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
The 2000 presidential election was between George W. Bush and Al Gore. George W. Bush got 271 electoral college votes and Al Gore received
266 electoral college vote. In 2016 presidential election Donald Trump won the electoral college 304 to Hillary Rodham Clinton 227 electoral college votes. So what is your question or contention?

I read WCS as pointing out that both Gore and Clinton won the popular vote while losing the electoral college vote.

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Apr 14, 2018 17:49:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
permafrost wrote:
seems the orange fluff screaming for everyone to look else where works on some of you..

the caravan-- like all the other years, it finished and concluded as they all have. In Mexico...

Had nothing to do with trump running his mouth..

http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-caravan-panic-misinformed-play-his-base-experts-say-872243

Earlier this week, a caravan of immigrants making its way to the United States border sent President Donald Trump into a frenzy over what he sees as Mexicos inabilitynay, refusalto stop Central Americans from crossing the southern border illegally.

"Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S.," Trump tweeted Sunday. "They laugh at our dumb immigration laws."

But Mexico is hardly laughing, experts told Newsweek. Research shows the country is detaining and deporting Central American immigrants in roughly the same numbers as the U.S., and often even surpassing the U.S. What's more, Mexico continues to devote resources to breaking up drug cartels and organized crime, the fear of which drives many immigrants to head north for refuge.

"Mexico has been doing far more to stop Central Americans from crossing the border than we have been doing," Shannon O'Neil, senior fellow for Latin American studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, told Newsweek.

Mexican officials went to lengths to break up the caravan on Tuesday, according to The Washington Post, which reported that immigration officers took a census at an encampment in Oaxaca, asking migrants for papers. Some were granted temporary legal permits requiring them to leave Mexico in 20 days, while others were permitted to apply for Mexican asylum.

On Wednesday, the Mexican Foreign Ministry reported that officials repatriated some 400 caravan migrants, sending them back to their native countries. "Under no circumstance does the government of Mexico promote illegal migration," the foreign ministry told CNN in a statement.

O'Neil said Trump need only look back a few years for evidence of how U.S.Mexico border security has improved. In 2014, the U.S. wrestled with what to do with the more than 68,000 children who had crossed the southern border, many of them unaccompanied. At the time, politicians and pundits sent truckloads of food, water and toys to the border for the children in attempts to mitigate what President Barack Obama deemed an "urgent humanitarian situation."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

China is stomping all over the farmers and ag business in the proposed payback tariffs.. No, not yet in place..

did you see trumps pathetic speech to the farmers who have suffered already from income collapse due to his screwing around with tariffs and with NAFTA??

He thanked them for being great Americans to accept the cost of policies.. He said he will make it up to them later.... some how... as he hustled off the stage..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Syria---- this is puzzling... Why did Assad gas his, or any people.. that civil war is essentially over and he, with Russian help won.. why do this and get bombed???

When President Obama wanted to bomb Syria, he went to congress, they would not do it.. trump did not go to congress, though he was among those who insisted it was the thing for Obama to do..

However, as fate would have it, President Obama did get what he demanded.. strangely, thanks to Russia..

As for trump motive..... I have not heard a word about the raid on his lawyer or the contents of the trump noose..
seems the orange fluff screaming for everyone to l... (show quote)


Mexico acted as they did knowing Trump would do as he said...The number of illegal aliens entering from our border and from Mexico by the thousands confirms there isn’t any effort to stop it, thats BS what you said and you know it.. my gosh perm how you can try to refute the mass numbers coming across-illegay and rising, not reducing.. You must take us for idiots!!!!

China another bit of BS...keep up perm.. Naturally they talked big trade war and all that with Trump but then put it out there they want far market trade and willing to reduce car trade tariffs etc..As well as stopping their control of steele/alumium that Trump called them out about too..The only President that tackled their BS, why is that perm??

You just can not dare say a word positive of Trump...hint~ He’s succeeding in spite of you and your ilk... Three fantastic great results this week alone and all major events.. Keep your lies going tho .. You kick your own ass every time in the process....

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Chinese leader Xi Jinping promised today to open China's economy up even further for foreign investments and to lower tariffs on foreign automobiles. His speech comes in the middle of this ongoing standoff between the U.S. and China over trade. NPR's Rob Schmitz joins us live from our Shanghai bureau this morning to talk about this. Hey, Rob.

ROB SCHMITZ, BYLINE: Good morning.

MARTIN: What can you tell us about the timing of this speech?

SCHMITZ: Well, obviously this comes amidst a pretty big buildup in what many people think is a trade war or a coming trade war between the U.S. and China. And a lot of people, I think, were expecting Xi Jinping to make a stand against the U.S. today. This is a really heavily hyped speech. But instead what we got was a speech that was sort of filled with poetic language about peace and harmony and coming together to solve global problems. Xi said that China would seek to reduce its trade surplus, which is, as we know, a big pet peeve of President Trump's. He also vowed China would improve its investment environment. Here's a snippet of what he said.

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/10/601072299/china-ready-to-lower-import-tariffs-and-trade-barriers-xi-says

As for Syria once again reverted to gasing his own people because of the rebels still fighting and refusing to leave.. They have been advancing again and Assad could not stop them so he did what he does when they are losing.. Puts a bomb out there with chlorine and serain again.. Works every time too. The rebels back off, leave the area for awhile..This one was once again an opps in getting caught because he killed 45 of his own people and injured hundreds most women and children.. Not the first time since he supposedly got rid of the chemicals and signed a treaty to it as well..You Know the rest I’m sure you have followed it..

Did you even watch the emergency meeting Russia called with the UN and hear what was said by the UK and fabulousy laid out by Nikki Haley?? You couldn’t have or you wouldn’t be
Embarrassing yourself with your comments on Syria!!!
Bo didn’t do a thing to stop Assad and Russia damn sure did nothing!! Trump inherited this mess from Bo’ and his imaginery red line in the sand garbage again.. He didn’t even enforce the inspection program as the treaty allowed, so please toot your BO BS on some of your ilk because it doesn’t work with me!!
BTW the UN denied Russia too..

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Apr 14, 2018 17:58:13   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
I read WCS as pointing out that both Gore and Clinton won the popular vote while losing the electoral college vote.


I posted once before that going to a popular vote would mean that the countries president would always be controlled by several large cities and the rest of the country might as well stay home. Just like in Illinois where I live we are listed as a democrat state not because there are no republicans here but Cook County which is the county around Chicago is majority democrat. Then we have Spring field downstate a heavy democrat city and then there ore several college towns in Illinois as well. Believe me I know how it works. So popular vote would be controlled by New York, Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, Houston, Dallas, Detroit, and maybe one or two other cities and it may not even take that much. Most large cities are democrat vote blocks. With the illegal voters in California Hillary could have received her +2,000,000 votes there alone. Our founding fathers were very wise and had seen many things from europe to be aware of what could happen and they did what they thought best to not allow that to happen in America.

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Apr 14, 2018 18:01:58   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Mexico acted as they did knowing Trump would do as he said...The number of illegal aliens entering from our border and from Mexico by the thousands confirms there isn’t any effort to stop it, thats BS what you said and you know it.. my gosh perm how you can try to refute the mass numbers coming across-illegay and rising, not reducing.. You must take us for idiots!!!!

China another bit of BS...keep up perm.. Naturally they talked big trade war and all that with Trump but then put it out there they want far market trade and willing to reduce car trade tariffs etc..As well as stopping their control of steele/alumium that Trump called them out about too..The only President that tackled their BS, why is that perm??



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On Wednesday, the Mexican Foreign Ministry reported that officials repatriated some 400 caravan migrants, sending them back to their native countries. "Under no circumstance does the government of Mexico promote illegal migration," the foreign ministry told CNN in a statement.

O'Neil said Trump need only look back a few years for evidence of how U.S.–Mexico border security has improved. In 2014, the U.S. wrestled with what to do with the more than 68,000 children who had crossed the southern border, many of them unaccompanied. At the time, politicians and pundits sent truckloads of food, water and toys to the border for the children in attempts to mitigate what President Barack Obama deemed an "urgent humanitarian situation."

Though unaccompanied children and families continue to make risky journeys to the U.S. border, a Mexican crackdown on Central American migrants in 2015 helped to stem the tide dramatically. Since then, illegal border crossings have fallen, with arrests for those crossings hitting a 46-year low.

"We haven't seen anything like that since that time," O'Neil said, referencing the surge of crossings in 2014. "It's not that Central Americans have stopped leaving their countries and trying to come into the U.S.—it's because Mexico has stopped letting them through."


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Mexico is doing very little, if not NOTHING, at stopping people from flowing into Mexico through their Southern Border, and then into the U.S. They laugh at our dumb immigration laws. They must stop the big drug and people flows, or I will stop their cash cow, NAFTA. NEED WALL!

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There may be little truth to Trump's claims that Mexico is doing nothing to allay the number of immigrants crossing the southern border. But the president has weaponized the image of a caravan of more than 1,000 immigrants flocking to the U.S. to rouse his base and build his case for increased border security.

"These themes related to migration and border security that he's advanced in the past—the caravan brings many of those together, but this time with a new, salient and highly visible angle," Harold Trinkunas, a senior fellow in the Latin America Initiative at Brookings Institution, told Newsweek. "In terms of a political hook, it's very useful to the president."

By capitalizing on the optics of the caravan—which happens annually as part of Holy Week—Trump also obfuscates the conditions that necessitated it in the first place, experts say. The immigrants who take part in the tradition, some say, only do so because they seek protection from some of the most dangerous countries in the world.

"The biggest flaw in Trump's thinking is that there is nothing illegal or improper about people in fear for their lives asking for protection," Adam Isacson, the director for defense oversight at the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA), told Newsweek.

"But Trump sees gang members, criminals, people trying to take jobs illegally—to be frank, he sees nonwhite people," Isacson continued. "He’s not seeing people fleeing violence."

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Apr 14, 2018 18:03:50   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
Mexico acted as they did knowing Trump would do as he said...The number of illegal aliens entering from our border and from Mexico by the thousands confirms there isn’t any effort to stop it, thats BS what you said and you know it.. my gosh perm how you can try to refute the mass numbers coming across-illegay and rising, not reducing.. You must take us for idiots!!!!

China another bit of BS...keep up perm.. Naturally they talked big trade war and all that with Trump but then put it out there they want far market trade and willing to reduce car trade tariffs etc..As well as stopping their control of steele/alumium that Trump called them out about too..The only President that tackled their BS, why is that perm??

You just can not dare say a word positive of Trump...hint~ He’s succeeding in spite of you and your ilk... Three fantastic great results this week alone and all major events.. Keep your lies going tho .. You kick your own ass every time in the process....

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Chinese leader Xi Jinping promised today to open China's economy up even further for foreign investments and to lower tariffs on foreign automobiles. His speech comes in the middle of this ongoing standoff between the U.S. and China over trade. NPR's Rob Schmitz joins us live from our Shanghai bureau this morning to talk about this. Hey, Rob.

ROB SCHMITZ, BYLINE: Good morning.

MARTIN: What can you tell us about the timing of this speech?

SCHMITZ: Well, obviously this comes amidst a pretty big buildup in what many people think is a trade war or a coming trade war between the U.S. and China. And a lot of people, I think, were expecting Xi Jinping to make a stand against the U.S. today. This is a really heavily hyped speech. But instead what we got was a speech that was sort of filled with poetic language about peace and harmony and coming together to solve global problems. Xi said that China would seek to reduce its trade surplus, which is, as we know, a big pet peeve of President Trump's. He also vowed China would improve its investment environment. Here's a snippet of what he said.

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/10/601072299/china-ready-to-lower-import-tariffs-and-trade-barriers-xi-says

As for Syria once again reverted to gasing his own people because of the rebels still fighting and refusing to leave.. They have been advancing again and Assad could not stop them so he did what he does when they are losing.. Puts a bomb out there with chlorine and serain again.. Works every time too. The rebels back off, leave the area for awhile..This one was once again an opps in getting caught because he killed 45 of his own people and injured hundreds most women and children.. Not the first time since he supposedly got rid of the chemicals and signed a treaty to it as well..You Know the rest I’m sure you have followed it..

Did you even watch the emergency meeting Russia called with the UN and hear what was said by the UK and fabulousy laid out by Nikki Haley?? You couldn’t have or you wouldn’t be
Embarrassing yourself with your comments on Syria!!!
Bo didn’t do a thing to stop Assad and Russia damn sure did nothing!! Trump inherited this mess from Bo’ and his imaginery red line in the sand garbage again.. He didn’t even enforce the inspection program as the treaty allowed, so please toot your BO BS on some of your ilk because it doesn’t work with me!!
BTW the UN denied Russia too..
Mexico acted as they did knowing Trump would do as... (show quote)




lindajoy for President





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Apr 14, 2018 18:05:03   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
lindajoy for President






Here Here "Dilly Dilly"

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Apr 14, 2018 18:12:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
[quote=lindajoy]Mexico acted as they did knowing Trump would do as he said...The number of illegal aliens entering from our border and from Mexico by the thousands confirms there isn’t any effort to stop it, thats BS what you said and you know it.. my gosh perm how you can try to refute the mass numbers coming across-illegay and rising, not reducing.. You must take us for idiots!!!!

China another bit of BS...keep up perm.. Naturally they talked big trade war and all that with Trump but then put it out there they want far market trade and willing to reduce car trade tariffs etc..As well as stopping their control of steele/alumium that Trump called them out about too..The only President that tackled their BS, why is that perm??

You just can not dare say a word positive of Trump...hint~ He’s succeeding in spite of you and your ilk... Three fantastic great results this week alone and all major events.. Keep your lies going tho .. You kick your own ass every time in the process....

The more trump tries to do something the worse he looks.. He is the dumbest, misplaced piece of the american low life to ever gain the power of yes/no..

If Trump thinks he's taking steel tariff war to China, he's wrong. That war is already over
President Trump's plan to impose steep tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum may set off a global trade war.
What it won't do is much if any damage to China's steel industry.
Trump has railed against China in his trade rhetoric, but the Chinese steel industry is already insulated to U.S. trade action.

For the Chinese steel manufacturers, however, the news was inconsequential. Although China is the world's largest steel exporter, it is only the 11th-largest source country to the U.S., accounting for just 2 percent of total U.S. imports last year.

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Given this low base, "We think this is a negative for the world steel industry as a whole, but as for China, we don't think it can be any worse," Lin said
Obama administration hit Chinese steel hard in 2016
Prior to this announcement, the U.S. had already implemented trade taxes on different types of imported steel from China. In 2016, the Obama administration imposed duties on some Chinese steel imports by more than 500 percent, causing Chinese imports to the U.S. to drop by almost two-thirds.

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Apr 14, 2018 18:17:40   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
lindajoy for President






Doesn't matter how right she is. Meatheaded ice brain wouldn't vote for her. He is a worshipper od anyone who wears a D on the back side of their name. To support, or even consider any thing other than what they say is like blasphemy to him.

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Apr 14, 2018 18:23:51   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
I posted once before that going to a popular vote would mean that the countries president would always be controlled by several large cities and the rest of the country might as well stay home. Just like in Illinois where I live we are listed as a democrat state not because there are no republicans here but Cook County which is the county around Chicago is majority democrat. Then we have Spring field downstate a heavy democrat city and then there ore several college towns in Illinois as well. Believe me I know how it works. So popular vote would be controlled by New York, Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, Houston, Dallas, Detroit, and maybe one or two other cities and it may not even take that much. Most large cities are democrat vote blocks. With the illegal voters in California Hillary could have received her +2,000,000 votes there alone. Our founding fathers were very wise and had seen many things from europe to be aware of what could happen and they did what they thought best to not allow that to happen in America.
I posted once before that going to a popular vote ... (show quote)

I am a believer in the electoral college system. It may be flawed, but I believe in it.

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