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Apr 13, 2018 18:55:24   #
itsmyjob
 
How about this? Our government should be for the people. I could care less if left or right wins as long as they follow the constitution. I'm waiting to see if anyone knows just who gave our government the power to take our freedom.

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Apr 13, 2018 19:25:17   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
So is that the only thing you are worried about?
bahmer

Actually, no. Since the title of the thread is Civil War??, and since you asked, I do not understand at all why those on the right think they would win an actual civil war. Since it is the job of the US government to protect the American people, how would the right win? Do you think the US military will help the right to attack all us 'Marxist/communists'? How would you get the armed forces to attack or corral half the voting age population?
Or would it just be marauding militias engaged in extra-judicial activities?
I also think the right is making a mistake in assuming it would win a civil war. The economic resources of the coasts and urban areas would nullify any advantage the rural areas have in weaponry.
While a civil war 2.0 would be just as tragic as the original (and therefore should not be wished for), it is not a given that the right would win.

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Apr 13, 2018 23:37:24   #
itsmyjob
 
working class stiff wrote:
So is that the only thing you are worried about?
bahmer

Actually, no. Since the title of the thread is Civil War??, and since you asked, I do not understand at all why those on the right think they would win an actual civil war. Since it is the job of the US government to protect the American people, how would the right win? Do you think the US military will help the right to attack all us 'Marxist/communists'? How would you get the armed forces to attack or corral half the voting age population?
Or would it just be marauding militias engaged in extra-judicial activities?
I also think the right is making a mistake in assuming it would win a civil war. The economic resources of the coasts and urban areas would nullify any advantage the rural areas have in weaponry.
While a civil war 2.0 would be just as tragic as the original (and therefore should not be wished for), it is not a given that the right would win.
So is that the only thing you are worried about? b... (show quote)

This is pretty funny considering that voting age people voted Trump in against the god awful lefts wishes. I'm pretty sure that the left will need the military not the right. I'm really not sure where you co.e up with its the government's job to protect the people form stupidity.

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Apr 14, 2018 06:59:10   #
Big Kahuna
 
working class stiff wrote:
I know he won the electoral college. That is why he is President.

Your response does not go to the two points I raised....
-since Dems have accepted two elections where their candidate won the popular vote but lost the Presidency why raise the issue of whether Dems would not accept the result?
-the question I raised was exactly the same....would the right wing (especially the President) accept a defeat? His 2016 election rhetoric does not bode well on that score.

It is quite obvious that your corrupt girl hitlary and your party can not accept your devastating loss to Trump and now you try and even use a stripper who Trump suppossedly knew 12 years ago, before his run for president, to try and use as a ruse to strip real Americans of a duly elected leader. The corruption of the demonratic party knows no bounds and the breadth and depth of the parties corruption must be ended.

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Apr 14, 2018 07:42:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
working class stiff wrote:
"Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.

That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war."


Since the last two Republican Presidents did not win a majority when first elected, it seems strange to me to accuse the Democrats (or liberals) of not accepting election results.
The folks who are constantly threatening 'civil war' is the right wing.

I wonder if the President loses his re-election bid will he accept the result. He already said he would accept the 2016 election results only if he won.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-accept-election-230098

And then you have to wonder will his backers accept a losing election result in 2020.

Glass houses and stones come to mind when considering this opinion.
"Two or more sides disagree on who runs the c... (show quote)


Many only care that what the BS politicans put us through are stopped!!

Who the figurehead is is not the issue, its country!!!It’s spending, it’s accountability, its swift action to correct the problems of our country..
Its adherance to our Constitution..
Its majority rules not political hacks looking to leave multi-millionaires off the sacrifice of the people..

So far Predident Trump has demonstrated his America First stance and honored his campaign promises.. He has succeeded in the wake of strong opposition, obstruction and destructionist... As example take his weeks activities:Mexico illegals enroute, he tells the President stop it or lose NAFTA, he stops it.. China, we’re leving tariffs, China talks big then comes back with we’ll get our steele/aluminum trade straighten out, lower car trade tariffs, etc.. Syrian rebellion disregard of the signed treaty agreement, no chemical warfare.. Once again they use it we form a coalition show Assad we will not tolerate chemical weapons attacks.. The absolute right decision... If we allow it we sign our own death warrant..As does every other country!!

This is not a President working against our Nation it is a man who puts America First and doesn’t just talk he actually acts on his warnings and if the world leaders no nothing else they do know he will act.. I say Thank You, Mr. President!! Perfect strategy in all three decisions!!!

Is he the best no, but he gets things done and he’s mot afrsid to tavkle criminal hillbin the process.. With results as we’ve just witnessed you bet I’ll support him!!!

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Apr 14, 2018 08:05:10   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
badbobby wrote:
an opinion
not necessarily mine


Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.



That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.



The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.



What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win. It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.



That’s a civil war.



There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.



This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.



Your very own dictatorship.



The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.



Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.



If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.



But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him. That’s how the game is played. That’s how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t yet won that particular fight.



When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.



The Constitution has something to say about that.



Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.



Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.



Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.



That’s not a free country.



It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win won.



Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.



That is how WARS START from within.
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What an opinion it is too, bobby!! Thank You for posting it...

We are a country formed on the Constitution and our alliance to country comes first!!

Politicians are a dime a dozen while our country is for as long as Mother Nature allows..
What you say right here sums it up perfectly;

It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win, won!”

We have tolerated more than enough and what happened after years of forced progressive left BS is people had enough and showed it.. Since then the losers(and they are ) have whined, cried, thrown fits, lied, obstructed, impeded President Trumps ability to secure and strengthen our border security, fought for DACA who came in illegally to begin with and never bothered applying for legal status anyway. Hired BLM and other groups to disrupt, attack band together to threaten and attack along with, Ohh just too much to list, we all know what has gone on...

Democrats are not happy in having a President that actually leads, works for America First and takes action on his words.. He is a leader and sooner or later they will learn you don’t want to test this President because he will and does act!! Mexico, China and Syria certainly know that, dont they ....

The progressive lefts only motivation is to take Trump out at all cost and to hell with our country in the process.. Their action defines it, words cheap and patriotism ??? Well not what America is all about..!!!!

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Apr 14, 2018 08:24:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JW wrote:
A Higher Loyalty

Author: James Comey


The interesting thing about that title is what it reveals about the author; he elects himself to judge an election. His 'loyalty' is to his ideology, not to the Constitutional process of orderly transitional government.


He’s out peddling his book now because his money line has dried up and he’s no linger Mr go to !!!.. I wouldn’t waste a penny to buy this lying traitors book!! Don't care what he has to say he's as credible as clinton !!

Talk about vengence as his motivator, can it be any more obvious???

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Apr 14, 2018 09:31:25   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
once a crook always a crook Donald Trump is Nixon all over again He will be allowed to finish his term unless the coward resigns first Trump and the GOP have forgotten about the checks and balances that is 3 equal levels of Govt

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Apr 14, 2018 10:35:49   #
bahmer
 
lindajoy wrote:
He’s out peddling his book now because his money line has dried up and he’s no linger Mr go to !!!.. I wouldn’t waste a penny to buy this lying traitors book!! Don't care what he has to say he's as credible as clinton !!

Talk about vengence as his motivator, can it be any more obvious???


Amen and Amen

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Apr 14, 2018 10:42:35   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
strong words coming from a Nixon wannabe supporter the traitor is Trump and the GOP

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Apr 14, 2018 10:57:30   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
jimpack123 wrote:
once a crook always a crook Donald Trump is Nixon all over again He will be allowed to finish his term unless the coward resigns first Trump and the GOP have forgotten about the checks and balances that is 3 equal levels of Govt


The original post was spot on, and this post proves it. Three co-equal branches of government don't matter when a Democrat president has a pen and a phone, but are critical when we have a republican president.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:59:32   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
itsmyjob wrote:
How about this? Our government should be for the people. I could care less if left or right wins as long as they follow the constitution. I'm waiting to see if anyone knows just who gave our government the power to take our freedom.


We did in our assinine votes and passiveness in not holding them accountable, by recalls, ousting, of forced resignation...
We get what we allow...
Aren’t we just brilliant???!!!

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Apr 14, 2018 11:01:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
The original post was spot on, and this post proves it. Three co-equal branches of government don't matter when a Democrat president has a pen and a phone, but are critical when we have a republican president.



Amen brother!!!

Just look at the action and you see their choice is not country its oust Trump, country be damned..

Tickle tickle, how are you too??

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Apr 14, 2018 11:03:36   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
JUST FOLLOW THE LAW TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY PRESIDENT

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Apr 14, 2018 11:07:14   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
working class stiff wrote:
I don't have a question. My contention is that it is not true to accuse Dems or liberals of not accepting election results . It's a fantasy, as the 2000 and 2016 elections show. Further, it was the current President who waffled in 2016 about accepting the results of the election.


A year of obstruction and you call it acceptance??

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