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Apr 6, 2018 15:46:14   #
woodguru
 
You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted. Thinking they have a lousy system for paying way too much for things and openly saying so doesn't mean you don't support the military.

You can be very pro Trump and they aren't going to take away your pro Trump card if you see something he's doing that sucks and say so.

The Trump supporting right would consider acknowledging any single thing and saying it's wrong as some sort of betrayal to the Donald.

This is dangerous thinking, it's blind loyalty, and it cuts a free pass for anything. Presidents need to be held accountable, especially by those who put them in office.

The blind loyalty has gotten so bad that the constant chatter about fake news, deep state, making things up makes it to where the right wouldn't know if a fact bit them on the nose.

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Apr 6, 2018 15:50:50   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted. Thinking they have a lousy system for paying way too much for things and openly saying so doesn't mean you don't support the military.

You can be very pro Trump and they aren't going to take away your pro Trump card if you see something he's doing that sucks and say so.

The Trump supporting right would consider acknowledging any single thing and saying it's wrong as some sort of betrayal to the Donald.

This is dangerous thinking, it's blind loyalty, and it cuts a free pass for anything. Presidents need to be held accountable, especially by those who put them in office.

The blind loyalty has gotten so bad that the constant chatter about fake news, deep state, making things up makes it to where the right wouldn't know if a fact bit them on the nose.
You can be very pro military and criticize it when... (show quote)


I dont support him on everything, but i DO support him on economy and immigration and im not gonna apologize for that to you or anybody else for that matter...

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Apr 6, 2018 16:07:15   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
woodguru wrote:
You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted. Thinking they have a lousy system for paying way too much for things and openly saying so doesn't mean you don't support the military.

You can be very pro Trump and they aren't going to take away your pro Trump card if you see something he's doing that sucks and say so.

The Trump supporting right would consider acknowledging any single thing and saying it's wrong as some sort of betrayal to the Donald.

This is dangerous thinking, it's blind loyalty, and it cuts a free pass for anything. Presidents need to be held accountable, especially by those who put them in office.

The blind loyalty has gotten so bad that the constant chatter about fake news, deep state, making things up makes it to where the right wouldn't know if a fact bit them on the nose.
You can be very pro military and criticize it when... (show quote)

That's the same thing I thought after the democrats sucked O'homos nutsack for 8 years. Ever get that funk taste out of your mouth?

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Apr 6, 2018 16:40:11   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
I dont support him on everything, but i DO support him on economy and immigration and im not gonna apologize for that to you or anybody else for that matter...


Not asking for apologies, just honesty on the things you don't like about him. A little honesty would go a long way toward recognizing the difference between fake news and what he's actually done and doing.

And I will rebut the economy thing, he is doing the worst things any president could possibly do. The stock market will tell the tale, and soon. Lowering taxes will have us at close to a two trillion dollar deficit, Bush managed $1.3T. Trump is already there. This kind of overachieving I can do without.

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Apr 6, 2018 17:01:14   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
woodguru wrote:
Not asking for apologies, just honesty on the things you don't like about him. A little honesty would go a long way toward recognizing the difference between fake news and what he's actually done and doing.

And I will rebut the economy thing, he is doing the worst things any president could possibly do. The stock market will tell the tale, and soon. Lowering taxes will have us at close to a two trillion dollar deficit, Bush managed $1.3T. Trump is already there. This kind of overachieving I can do without.
Not asking for apologies, just honesty on the thin... (show quote)

Pure and utter BS, the Fed controls the economy, not the president, not congress.

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Apr 6, 2018 18:37:44   #
woodguru
 
Dr. Evil wrote:
Pure and utter BS, the Fed controls the economy, not the president, not congress.


When Trump makes the unilateral moves without the benefit of anyone else, he is jerking the economy around. When he tweets day after day about Amazon to where their stock goes down $80 billion in a few days, he is jerking the economy around. When he declares a trade war with Gina, the feds aren't doing anything, Trump is, and to double down and say lets go for a hundred billion when fifty was bad enough????

I rest my case.

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Apr 7, 2018 08:20:05   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
[quote=woodguru]You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted.

NO ONE KNOWS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP has on his mind. Where he wants to take America or how he wants to get there. IF ONLY the republicans would actually back him we might get to where we need to be ASAP.
This President has had almost the worst backing of any President. The rinos & demoncraps want him gone because they are afraid of losing their lifestyles.
When I was an owner of a small car dealership I would run into the truly wealthy dealers @ the auctions. The ones that would talk with me about how to be successful would always tell me that I wouldn’t understand how to make real money in the business until I had gone bankrupt twice. SAY WHAT ?
Unfortunately they were right, until I had lost everything at least twice I didn’t understand how the systems worked. This President is a businessman !
Business is business and to be successful you must be dog nuts brutal to win.
If you don’t put it all on the line you’ll never be truly successful.
President Trump is trying to do exactly that and is running into people who should be tried for high treason.
I was sad when he signed the “omnibus bill” but I decided to see how he would make lemonade from that lemon he was handed. If Americans would actually back our President we all might really do well and drain the swamp of all these career bloodsuckers.

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Apr 7, 2018 09:03:44   #
debeda
 
Dr. Evil wrote:
That's the same thing I thought after the democrats sucked O'homos nutsack for 8 years. Ever get that funk taste out of your mouth?


Lolololololol I was thinking the same thing (in slightly different words)

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Apr 7, 2018 09:05:19   #
debeda
 
[quote=Justsss]
woodguru wrote:
You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted.

NO ONE KNOWS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP has on his mind. Where he wants to take America or how he wants to get there. IF ONLY the republicans would actually back him we might get to where we need to be ASAP.
This President has had almost the worst backing of any President. The rinos & demoncraps want him gone because they are afraid of losing their lifestyles.
When I was an owner of a small car dealership I would run into the truly wealthy dealers @ the auctions. The ones that would talk with me about how to be successful would always tell me that I wouldn’t understand how to make real money in the business until I had gone bankrupt twice. SAY WHAT ?
Unfortunately they were right, until I had lost everything at least twice I didn’t understand how the systems worked. This President is a businessman !
Business is business and to be successful you must be dog nuts brutal to win.
If you don’t put it all on the line you’ll never be truly successful.
President Trump is trying to do exactly that and is running into people who should be tried for high treason.
I was sad when he signed the “omnibus bill” but I decided to see how he would make lemonade from that lemon he was handed. If Americans would actually back our President we all might really do well and drain the swamp of all these career bloodsuckers.
You can be very pro military and criticize it when... (show quote)



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Apr 7, 2018 14:29:02   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted. Thinking they have a lousy system for paying way too much for things and openly saying so doesn't mean you don't support the military.

You can be very pro Trump and they aren't going to take away your pro Trump card if you see something he's doing that sucks and say so.

The Trump supporting right would consider acknowledging any single thing and saying it's wrong as some sort of betrayal to the Donald.

This is dangerous thinking, it's blind loyalty, and it cuts a free pass for anything. Presidents need to be held accountable, especially by those who put them in office.

The blind loyalty has gotten so bad that the constant chatter about fake news, deep state, making things up makes it to where the right wouldn't know if a fact bit them on the nose.
You can be very pro military and criticize it when... (show quote)


I believe there are many that voted for Trump acknowledge some thing done by Trump are not what they believe but the main issues we have no problem with. And hasn't the main stream media had blind loyalty to the far left? It seems to me, that many on the left only see something wrong when it is done by the right but fail to acknowledge the same wrong when it is committed by the left. Just like the firing of the second in command of the FBI when he lied numerous times to officials. The FBI had said he had to be fired and at that time the AG fired him. Trump had no part in that. It was instituted by the agency for which that person was employed. As for the deep state, why is the DOJ and the FBI being slow in responding to the government committee that has oversight. People on this committee have the same type of security clearances as the FBI employees and have the right to see that the agencies are kept on the straight and narrow to protect the American people. But I guess that is too logical for the liberal mind to comprehend at this time. And for your last sentence. If the liberal media would quit putting out false allegations about people on the right we would not criticize them so often. Most liberals refuse to see facts when they are put in front of them, with the evidence to prove the statement.

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Apr 7, 2018 14:37:03   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
When Trump makes the unilateral moves without the benefit of anyone else, he is jerking the economy around. When he tweets day after day about Amazon to where their stock goes down $80 billion in a few days, he is jerking the economy around. When he declares a trade war with Gina, the feds aren't doing anything, Trump is, and to double down and say lets go for a hundred billion when fifty was bad enough????

I rest my case.


I guess you are OK with China having a 25% tariff on our cars when we have, I think a 3% tariff on their cars. What about all of the inequities with our products. I guess you are OK with China taking advantage of the U. S.. I suppose Obama didn't ever try to encourage our economy in a different direction? I think that Amazon should pay tax's on the benefits they have gotten from states giving him millions of dollars just to have Amazon in their state. That seems to be a payment to them and should be taxed.

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Apr 7, 2018 14:38:34   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
[quote=Justsss]
woodguru wrote:
You can be very pro military and criticize it when it's warranted.

NO ONE KNOWS WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP has on his mind. Where he wants to take America or how he wants to get there. IF ONLY the republicans would actually back him we might get to where we need to be ASAP.
This President has had almost the worst backing of any President. The rinos & demoncraps want him gone because they are afraid of losing their lifestyles.
When I was an owner of a small car dealership I would run into the truly wealthy dealers @ the auctions. The ones that would talk with me about how to be successful would always tell me that I wouldn’t understand how to make real money in the business until I had gone bankrupt twice. SAY WHAT ?
Unfortunately they were right, until I had lost everything at least twice I didn’t understand how the systems worked. This President is a businessman !
Business is business and to be successful you must be dog nuts brutal to win.
If you don’t put it all on the line you’ll never be truly successful.
President Trump is trying to do exactly that and is running into people who should be tried for high treason.
I was sad when he signed the “omnibus bill” but I decided to see how he would make lemonade from that lemon he was handed. If Americans would actually back our President we all might really do well and drain the swamp of all these career bloodsuckers.
You can be very pro military and criticize it when... (show quote)



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Apr 7, 2018 18:02:22   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
[quote=Louie27]I believe there are many that voted for Trump acknowledge some thing done by Trump are not what they believe but the main issues we have no problem with. And hasn't the main stream media had blind loyalty to the far left?



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Apr 7, 2018 18:04:53   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
[quote=Louie27]I guess you are OK with China having a 25% tariff on our cars when we have, I think a 3% tariff on their cars. What about all of the inequities with our products. I guess you are OK with China taking advantage of the U. S..

TIME FOR ALL AMERICANS TO STOP BUYING ANYTHING FROM CHINA.
I really don’t know what to do about our electronics, but we must stop making china the rulers over us.

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Apr 8, 2018 12:52:28   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
[quote=Justsss]
Louie27 wrote:
I guess you are OK with China having a 25% tariff on our cars when we have, I think a 3% tariff on their cars. What about all of the inequities with our products. I guess you are OK with China taking advantage of the U. S..

TIME FOR ALL AMERICANS TO STOP BUYING ANYTHING FROM CHINA.
I really don’t know what to do about our electronics, but we must stop making china the rulers over us.
I guess you are OK with China having a 25% tariff ... (show quote)


China not only takes advantage of our country but other countries also. These other countries should get up in arms about China's money manipulation in the world economy and it's other adverse trading arrangements.

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