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Apr 3, 2018 16:39:42   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
MIT announced today (April 2) that it has severed a subcontract with Nectome, a company that says it will preserve the brains of dying people in order to revive them in the future.

MIT's announcement stated that it is cutting off a subcontract that involved the university in Nectome's grant-funded research through MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden's lab. Nectome has received more than $915,000 in grant funding from the National Institute of Mental Health.

Live Science reported on the company's "100-percent-fatal" brain-preserving service in March. Neuroscientists Live Science interviewed at the time were deeply skeptical, saying that there is no reason to believe the deadly service would actually make it possible to revive a person in the future. [Top 10 Weird Ways We Deal with the Dead]

Remarkably, MIT's announcement also includes a detailed critique of Nectome's research, beginning by stating, "Neuroscience has not sufficiently advanced to the point where we know whether any brain preservation method is powerful enough to preserve all the different kinds of biomolecules related to memory and the mind. It is also not known whether it is possible to recreate a person’s consciousness."

The university also said that Boyden "has no personal affiliation — financial, operational, or contractual — with the company Nectome."

Nectome's plans sounded outlandish, but its MIT-graduate founders boasted of the involvement of high-profile MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden. As MIT Technology Review reported in a flattering profile of the company published March 13, Nectome has already won a prize for successfully preserving the nerve network, or connectome, of a dead pig. And the company later tried out its process on the 2.5-hour-old corpse of an elderly woman. In the future, Nectome plans to preserve the brains of living people, as a means of physician-assisted suicide.

The theory behind Nectome's ultimate goal is that a well-preserved connectome, or map of all the links between a brain's nerves, might contain enough information for future scientists to digitize and use to re-create a dead person's consciousness. When Technology Review published its article, a number of tech and science publications jumped on the story, repeating the grisly, fatal service's most ambitious claims.

However, neuroscientists Live Science previously spoke to were deeply skeptical.

"The important question," Harvard neuroscientist Sam Gershman said, "is whether the connectome is sufficient for memory: Can I reconstruct all memories knowing only the connections between neurons? The answer is almost certainly no, given our knowledge about how memories are stored — itself a controversial topic."

Florida State University neuroscientist Jens Foell previously told Live Science that key information would be lost in preserving the connectome.

"It's true that synapses are where all the action happens," he said. "But cell firing behavior is determined by other things, including processes within the cells that are determined by proteins that are much smaller than synapses — and some of them are short-lived)."

A number of neuroscientists publicly criticized Nectome, as well as other researchers who had worked with them or implicitly supported them.

It's worth noting that not every neuroscientist agrees that Nectome's promises are total bunk.

Following the earlier article, Sebastian Seung, a connectome expert at Princeton University, wrote an email to Live Science offering some support for Nectome.

"I agree that the Nectome route is far-fetched," he wrote. "But I can see someone making a rational judgement that Nectome is better than the alternatives: 1) normal death with zero probability of revival and 2) Alcor with no demonstration of connectome preservation."

(Alcor is a cryonics company that freezes bodies after death.)
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Neither MIT nor Nectome immediately responded to questions from Live Science about the parting of ways.

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Apr 4, 2018 06:32:33   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
badbobby wrote:
MIT announced today (April 2) that it has severed a subcontract with Nectome, a company that says it will preserve the brains of dying people in order to revive them in the future.

MIT's announcement stated that it is cutting off a subcontract that involved the university in Nectome's grant-funded research through MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden's lab. Nectome has received more than $915,000 in grant funding from the National Institute of Mental Health.

Live Science reported on the company's "100-percent-fatal" brain-preserving service in March. Neuroscientists Live Science interviewed at the time were deeply skeptical, saying that there is no reason to believe the deadly service would actually make it possible to revive a person in the future. [Top 10 Weird Ways We Deal with the Dead]

Remarkably, MIT's announcement also includes a detailed critique of Nectome's research, beginning by stating, "Neuroscience has not sufficiently advanced to the point where we know whether any brain preservation method is powerful enough to preserve all the different kinds of biomolecules related to memory and the mind. It is also not known whether it is possible to recreate a person’s consciousness."

The university also said that Boyden "has no personal affiliation — financial, operational, or contractual — with the company Nectome."

Nectome's plans sounded outlandish, but its MIT-graduate founders boasted of the involvement of high-profile MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden. As MIT Technology Review reported in a flattering profile of the company published March 13, Nectome has already won a prize for successfully preserving the nerve network, or connectome, of a dead pig. And the company later tried out its process on the 2.5-hour-old corpse of an elderly woman. In the future, Nectome plans to preserve the brains of living people, as a means of physician-assisted suicide.

The theory behind Nectome's ultimate goal is that a well-preserved connectome, or map of all the links between a brain's nerves, might contain enough information for future scientists to digitize and use to re-create a dead person's consciousness. When Technology Review published its article, a number of tech and science publications jumped on the story, repeating the grisly, fatal service's most ambitious claims.

However, neuroscientists Live Science previously spoke to were deeply skeptical.

"The important question," Harvard neuroscientist Sam Gershman said, "is whether the connectome is sufficient for memory: Can I reconstruct all memories knowing only the connections between neurons? The answer is almost certainly no, given our knowledge about how memories are stored — itself a controversial topic."

Florida State University neuroscientist Jens Foell previously told Live Science that key information would be lost in preserving the connectome.

"It's true that synapses are where all the action happens," he said. "But cell firing behavior is determined by other things, including processes within the cells that are determined by proteins that are much smaller than synapses — and some of them are short-lived)."

A number of neuroscientists publicly criticized Nectome, as well as other researchers who had worked with them or implicitly supported them.

It's worth noting that not every neuroscientist agrees that Nectome's promises are total bunk.

Following the earlier article, Sebastian Seung, a connectome expert at Princeton University, wrote an email to Live Science offering some support for Nectome.

"I agree that the Nectome route is far-fetched," he wrote. "But I can see someone making a rational judgement that Nectome is better than the alternatives: 1) normal death with zero probability of revival and 2) Alcor with no demonstration of connectome preservation."

(Alcor is a cryonics company that freezes bodies after death.)
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My first thought, what of the soul? Once the soul flies, no amount of firing between synapses can reconstuct, the person, created in the image of God. Sounds like a first step in euthanasia of elderly. When my time comes, I trust the hands of God to catch me. Only a Godless man, terrified of his maker , and rightly so, could attempt to avoid death. Only God offers life eternal. I can see it now, "Ok, grandpa, time for your brain preservation ceremony"


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Apr 4, 2018 06:34:34   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Sorry, my reply was planted in the center of your post.

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Apr 4, 2018 07:26:57   #
Big dog
 
badbobby wrote:
MIT announced today (April 2) that it has severed a subcontract with Nectome, a company that says it will preserve the brains of dying people in order to revive them in the future.

MIT's announcement stated that it is cutting off a subcontract that involved the university in Nectome's grant-funded research through MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden's lab. Nectome has received more than $915,000 in grant funding from the National Institute of Mental Health.

Live Science reported on the company's "100-percent-fatal" brain-preserving service in March. Neuroscientists Live Science interviewed at the time were deeply skeptical, saying that there is no reason to believe the deadly service would actually make it possible to revive a person in the future. [Top 10 Weird Ways We Deal with the Dead]

Remarkably, MIT's announcement also includes a detailed critique of Nectome's research, beginning by stating, "Neuroscience has not sufficiently advanced to the point where we know whether any brain preservation method is powerful enough to preserve all the different kinds of biomolecules related to memory and the mind. It is also not known whether it is possible to recreate a person’s consciousness."

The university also said that Boyden "has no personal affiliation — financial, operational, or contractual — with the company Nectome."

Nectome's plans sounded outlandish, but its MIT-graduate founders boasted of the involvement of high-profile MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden. As MIT Technology Review reported in a flattering profile of the company published March 13, Nectome has already won a prize for successfully preserving the nerve network, or connectome, of a dead pig. And the company later tried out its process on the 2.5-hour-old corpse of an elderly woman. In the future, Nectome plans to preserve the brains of living people, as a means of physician-assisted suicide.

The theory behind Nectome's ultimate goal is that a well-preserved connectome, or map of all the links between a brain's nerves, might contain enough information for future scientists to digitize and use to re-create a dead person's consciousness. When Technology Review published its article, a number of tech and science publications jumped on the story, repeating the grisly, fatal service's most ambitious claims.

However, neuroscientists Live Science previously spoke to were deeply skeptical.

"The important question," Harvard neuroscientist Sam Gershman said, "is whether the connectome is sufficient for memory: Can I reconstruct all memories knowing only the connections between neurons? The answer is almost certainly no, given our knowledge about how memories are stored — itself a controversial topic."

Florida State University neuroscientist Jens Foell previously told Live Science that key information would be lost in preserving the connectome.

"It's true that synapses are where all the action happens," he said. "But cell firing behavior is determined by other things, including processes within the cells that are determined by proteins that are much smaller than synapses — and some of them are short-lived)."

A number of neuroscientists publicly criticized Nectome, as well as other researchers who had worked with them or implicitly supported them.

It's worth noting that not every neuroscientist agrees that Nectome's promises are total bunk.

Following the earlier article, Sebastian Seung, a connectome expert at Princeton University, wrote an email to Live Science offering some support for Nectome.

"I agree that the Nectome route is far-fetched," he wrote. "But I can see someone making a rational judgement that Nectome is better than the alternatives: 1) normal death with zero probability of revival and 2) Alcor with no demonstration of connectome preservation."

(Alcor is a cryonics company that freezes bodies after death.)
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Purely NUTS

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Apr 4, 2018 13:47:08   #
boatbob2
 
I dont want them to do that to me, I just want to be buried in a NEW GARBAGE CAN,head first,So the whole world can kiss my ---

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Apr 4, 2018 13:47:44   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
boatbob2 wrote:
I dont want them to do that to me, I just want to be buried in a NEW GARBAGE CAN,head first,So the whole world can kiss my ---



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Apr 5, 2018 08:51:41   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
boatbob2 wrote:
I dont want them to do that to me, I just want to be buried in a NEW GARBAGE CAN,head first,So the whole world can kiss my ---


I just want to be cremated, my ashes put in a douche bag and passed through one more time.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:12:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
I think they have lost their brains!!!!

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Apr 5, 2018 09:14:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
valkyrierider wrote:
I just want to be cremated, my ashes put in a douche bag and passed through one more time.


You are one sick puppy~~~

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Apr 5, 2018 23:06:55   #
valkyrierider Loc: "Land of Trump"
 
lindajoy wrote:
You are one sick puppy~~~


I guess i'm just a dirty old man with my mind in the gutter every now and then.

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