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The US Is Putin's Cuckold, Now Saudi Arabia? Where Are The Patriots Who Say That's Enough?
Mar 22, 2018 13:36:21   #
woodguru
 
It's one thing to watch our president wiggling around on his back like a little puppy around the alpha dog Putin, it's another when the Saudi prince says he owns Kushner, has him in his back pocket.

I know it's hard to believe anything that you don't hear from FOX, here's the facts coming out as corroborated by many sources that will check out. I need to reiterate, WSJ, Post, NY Times are all over this, it isn't going away soon and more and more facts will be coming out, this is not Breitbart or FOX here, it is fully corroborated stuff coming out. Several things have happened that all together paint a picture of the president's family using foreign policy to enrichen themselves. No matter what you think or want to believe we have to be open to the realities of events and what is shaping them, especially when those events blow stable policy out the window. We do not change policies because one government refuses to pay money to Kushner. This has a series of things that link together in ways that link, and there is a lot of corroboration to it all. This isn't just about money, it's about Kushner, who should never have had access to highly classified intelligence for the exact reasons we are looking at, let alone a key role in middle east policies. First of all, Kushner's "style" of having one on one meetings when he wants loans or partnerships with a government is not okay, it is not the way US relationships are done. There are ambassadors to all of these countries that have decades of experience, they know what the balances of power are, and they have never been excluded in negotiations with these governments. That is as much so that there can be nothing illegal or nefarious as it is to have a witness to what has been said. Of course if you are talking business that is illegal Kushner wouldn't want official witnesses would he?

Qatar is at the heart of the Saudi/Kushner thing, Qatar is our ally in the region. We have a super base there that has had as many as 100,000 troops, it's used as a staging ground for all of our operations in the surrounding areas. When the UAE, who is not our ally, who we severed and strained our relationships with after 9/11 because in part the terrorists were tied to the Saudi's, banded together with other countries to blockade Qatar, we refused to support that against our ally Qatar.

Here's how personal banana republic financial interests screw up foreign policies. Kushner prior to the election had been pushing Qatar for a loan for his troubled property for hundreds of millions of dollars. According to friends and associates it looked like a done deal but Qatar pulled out. After the election Kushner was still trying to get them to loan him hundreds of millions of dollars, again it looked like it might happen but was scuttled. What we have is verified personal trips meeting with Qatar, this we know happened. Again face to face negotiations are not necessary, unless of course part of the business at hand is personal and illegal. There are established methods any contacts with foreign dignitaries takes place, and it is always with multiple US dignitaries. Deviations from that, especially when money at a personal level is concerned would always have to be looked at from the perspective of wrongdoing taking place because that starts with failing to follow protocols that are there for that reason.

So, Kushner not getting the money he needs from Qatar, he steps up meetings with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, (not an ally by any means) and engages in multiple diplomatic meetings that are again private. Kushner had met with the prince one week before he purged the internal conflicts he was having between the other prince (his brother). There was a power struggle between them and the prince Kushner was talking with took his brother and everyone who supported him hostage in a coup and killed and tortured them. So it would appear that this prince, Jared's buddy was given the names by Kushner, who had access to that highly sensitive material. Now we are getting into life in prison territory if Jared used highly sensitive information that he never should have had access to in the first place because the crown prince was helping Kushner with his financial problems.

Now back to Qatar, and here is the real crime, and again the reason the US cannot be involved with personal financial ties. The US inexplicably did an about face and threw Qatar under the bus, supporting the Saudi led blockades. We are selling them bombs and weapons, and supporting their air refueling for their jets doing the bombing. With no food or assistance their people are literally starving, something like 4.5 million kids are dying and close to dying.

About faces on established policies need reasons, without any possible reason there is only the things that are never supposed to happen but did. This story is actually huge, there is much more that links into it, including a one billion dollar contract from the Saudis to a power and influence broker that has become a defense contractor, who happened to be involved personally with whatever deal Eric Prince had going on in the Seychelles with the Saudis.

Anyone who cares about this country is going to want to know what's up with this stuff, it is not possible to blow this off as fake news, deep state BS. There will be a substantial array of information and intelligence that either supports this of helps prove Kushner is in the clear. It will help to know what intelligence Kushner signed for, and the white house needs to let the FBI and CIA do their jobs as far as putting everything together, no telling them to conceal the classified information registers.

This is the point to me where people put the country first and say this crap stops, there was no explicable reason for the US to pull it's support of Qatar. Don't use the word patriot ever again if you are not concerned about what went on here, and I said concerned, not taking this and making a decision about whether you think it's true or not, that remains to be seen. Free passes are not okay when a foreign policy that should not be happening is directly killing millions of people.

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Mar 23, 2018 20:27:31   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
It's one thing to watch our president wiggling around on his back like a little puppy around the alpha dog Putin, it's another when the Saudi prince says he owns Kushner, has him in his back pocket.

I know it's hard to believe anything that you don't hear from FOX, here's the facts coming out as corroborated by many sources that will check out. I need to reiterate, WSJ, Post, NY Times are all over this, it isn't going away soon and more and more facts will be coming out, this is not Breitbart or FOX here, it is fully corroborated stuff coming out. Several things have happened that all together paint a picture of the president's family using foreign policy to enrichen themselves. No matter what you think or want to believe we have to be open to the realities of events and what is shaping them, especially when those events blow stable policy out the window. We do not change policies because one government refuses to pay money to Kushner. This has a series of things that link together in ways that link, and there is a lot of corroboration to it all. This isn't just about money, it's about Kushner, who should never have had access to highly classified intelligence for the exact reasons we are looking at, let alone a key role in middle east policies. First of all, Kushner's "style" of having one on one meetings when he wants loans or partnerships with a government is not okay, it is not the way US relationships are done. There are ambassadors to all of these countries that have decades of experience, they know what the balances of power are, and they have never been excluded in negotiations with these governments. That is as much so that there can be nothing illegal or nefarious as it is to have a witness to what has been said. Of course if you are talking business that is illegal Kushner wouldn't want official witnesses would he?

Qatar is at the heart of the Saudi/Kushner thing, Qatar is our ally in the region. We have a super base there that has had as many as 100,000 troops, it's used as a staging ground for all of our operations in the surrounding areas. When the UAE, who is not our ally, who we severed and strained our relationships with after 9/11 because in part the terrorists were tied to the Saudi's, banded together with other countries to blockade Qatar, we refused to support that against our ally Qatar.

Here's how personal banana republic financial interests screw up foreign policies. Kushner prior to the election had been pushing Qatar for a loan for his troubled property for hundreds of millions of dollars. According to friends and associates it looked like a done deal but Qatar pulled out. After the election Kushner was still trying to get them to loan him hundreds of millions of dollars, again it looked like it might happen but was scuttled. What we have is verified personal trips meeting with Qatar, this we know happened. Again face to face negotiations are not necessary, unless of course part of the business at hand is personal and illegal. There are established methods any contacts with foreign dignitaries takes place, and it is always with multiple US dignitaries. Deviations from that, especially when money at a personal level is concerned would always have to be looked at from the perspective of wrongdoing taking place because that starts with failing to follow protocols that are there for that reason.

So, Kushner not getting the money he needs from Qatar, he steps up meetings with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, (not an ally by any means) and engages in multiple diplomatic meetings that are again private. Kushner had met with the prince one week before he purged the internal conflicts he was having between the other prince (his brother). There was a power struggle between them and the prince Kushner was talking with took his brother and everyone who supported him hostage in a coup and killed and tortured them. So it would appear that this prince, Jared's buddy was given the names by Kushner, who had access to that highly sensitive material. Now we are getting into life in prison territory if Jared used highly sensitive information that he never should have had access to in the first place because the crown prince was helping Kushner with his financial problems.

Now back to Qatar, and here is the real crime, and again the reason the US cannot be involved with personal financial ties. The US inexplicably did an about face and threw Qatar under the bus, supporting the Saudi led blockades. We are selling them bombs and weapons, and supporting their air refueling for their jets doing the bombing. With no food or assistance their people are literally starving, something like 4.5 million kids are dying and close to dying.

About faces on established policies need reasons, without any possible reason there is only the things that are never supposed to happen but did. This story is actually huge, there is much more that links into it, including a one billion dollar contract from the Saudis to a power and influence broker that has become a defense contractor, who happened to be involved personally with whatever deal Eric Prince had going on in the Seychelles with the Saudis.

Anyone who cares about this country is going to want to know what's up with this stuff, it is not possible to blow this off as fake news, deep state BS. There will be a substantial array of information and intelligence that either supports this of helps prove Kushner is in the clear. It will help to know what intelligence Kushner signed for, and the white house needs to let the FBI and CIA do their jobs as far as putting everything together, no telling them to conceal the classified information registers.

This is the point to me where people put the country first and say this crap stops, there was no explicable reason for the US to pull it's support of Qatar. Don't use the word patriot ever again if you are not concerned about what went on here, and I said concerned, not taking this and making a decision about whether you think it's true or not, that remains to be seen. Free passes are not okay when a foreign policy that should not be happening is directly killing millions of people.
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Some of you liberals/Democrats or all seem to forget that Obama didn't think Russia was a problem in the 2012 election and in 2014 when he was informed of Russia's attempting to influence our 2016 election.

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Mar 23, 2018 20:42:32   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
It's one thing to watch our president wiggling around on his back like a little puppy around the alpha dog Putin, it's another when the Saudi prince says he owns Kushner, has him in his back pocket.


That's some spin...The DNC and Congress critters are mad that MBS put Al Waleed on ICE...No more Big Bucks
n' Bribes for the Marxist's(((laugh)))Trumpy Stopped that Gravy Train...Dems also Mad Putin Respects Trump.

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