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Mar 5, 2018 16:27:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Why do conservatives think liberals want to ban all firearms?

Because they can think for themselves and do research?

Senator Dianne Feinstein (D – CA) does. “Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” – Associated Press, 18 November, 1993. “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them; “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,” I would have done it.” – 60 Minutes on CBS, 5 February, 1995. …“The National Guard fulfills the militia mentioned in the Second amendment. Citizens no longer need to protect the states or themselves.”

Senator Frank Launtenberg (D – NJ) did. “We have other legislation that all of you are aware that I have been so active on, with my colleagues here, and that is to shut down the gun shows.”

“I will get the NRA shut down for good if I become president. If we can ban handguns we will do it.”-Hillary Clinton interview with Des Moines Register Aug. 8th, 2015

Fmr. Senator Howard Metzenbaum (D – OH) did. “No, we’re not looking at how to control criminals … we’re talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns.” – Constitution Subcommittee, 2 February, 1989

Vice President Joe “Buckshot” Biden (D – DE) does. “Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.” – Associated Press, 11 November, 1993 Representative Jan Schakowski (D – IL) does. “I believe…..this is my final word……I believe that I’m supporting the Constitution of the United States which does not give the right for any individual to own a handgun….” – Recorded 25 June, 2000 by Matt Beauchamp

Fmr. Representative Major Owens (D – NY) did. “We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose.”

Representative Bobby Rush (D – IL) does. “My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don’t have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that’s the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation.”

Vermont State Mary Ann Carlson (D) does. “We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime.”

New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) does. ” …confiscation could be an option…” Sarah Brady, fmr. Chairman of Handgun Control Inc. (now The Brady Campaign) does. “…I don’t believe gun owners have rights.” – Hearst Newspapers, October 1997 “The House passage of our bill is a victory for this country! Common sense wins out. I’m just so thrilled and excited. The sale of guns must stop. Halfway measures are not enough.” – 1 July, 1988…

“Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” – The National Educator, January 1994, pg. 3, to Fmr. Senator Howard Metzenbaum

Fmr. Chancellor of Boston University John Silber did. “I don’t believe anybody has a right to own any kind of a firearm. I believe in order to obtain a permit to own a firearm, that person should undergo an exhaustive criminal background check. In addition, an applicant should give up his right to privacy and submit his medical records for review to see if the person has ever had a problem with alcohol, drugs or mental illness . . . The Constitution doesn’t count!”

Fmr. United States Attorney General Janet “Waco” Reno does. “The most effective means of fighting crime in the United States is to outlaw the possession of any type of firearm by the civilian populace.”-- Written affidavit by Fred Diamond, 1984 B’nai B’rith meeting in Coral Gables, Florida

Deborah Prothrow-Stith, of the Office of Government and Community Programs and the Community Violence Prevention Project at the Harvard School of Public Health, does. “My own view on gun control is simple: I hate guns and I cannot imagine why anybody would want to own one. If I had my way, guns for sport would be registered, and all other guns would be banned.” The ACLU does. “We urge passage of federal legislation … to prohibit … the private ownership and possession of handguns.” ACLU #47.

“I now think the only way to control handgun use is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution. — M. Gartner, then President of NBC News, USA Today, January 16, 1992, pg. A9.

Now read the Democrat H.R.4269 - Assault Weapons Ban of 2015 pay particular attention to the SINGLE-SHOTS and BOLT ACTIONS "Assault Weapons"!


Why do liberals think conservatives are angered by this?

Because every single liberal argument twisting the 2nd amendment that is does not mean that every citizen has the rights to own and carry arms, uninfringed.
And because historical evidence by hundreds of our founding fathers speeches and quotes, give empirical evidence to irrefutable facts they wanted every citizen armed.

Because every single argument liberals have for banning guns for a safer America is factually false and can be backed by empirical evidence.
Why do conservatives think liberals want to ban al... (show quote)


True liberals generally don't want to take the guns. The leftist democrats most assuredly, do.

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Mar 5, 2018 16:34:04   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Are you of German ancestry?



None of your f**king business.

That's all you got? The very best you can do? You Leftists are pathetic. At least you could make the effort to find a cut-and-paste ... I mean, that doesn't require you to think ... or does it?

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Mar 5, 2018 17:00:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
CDM wrote:
None of your f**king business.

That's all you got? The very best you can do? You Leftists are pathetic. At least you could make the effort to find a cut-and-paste ... I mean, that doesn't require you to think ... or does it?


German alright, bet your family was full of Nazis. Go back were they came from, hear they make great beer.

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Mar 5, 2018 19:21:01   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Why do conservatives believe liberals want to ban all guns?

Simply because they do, and when they are with like minded people they readily admit it. They most assuredly do want our guns, but what they want more than that is to enslave us to the all mighty state, which they of course will control.




100% correct, control the masses through Marxist Socialist agenda. They have already revealed their intentions through Agenda 21 and begun closing off land to citizens, forcing people off their land in the process. To accomplish Agenda 21 in its fullest, they must remove all arms.

Notice the ignorance or denial of BadBob"s reply?

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Mar 5, 2018 19:23:47   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
True liberals generally don't want to take the guns. The leftist democrats most assuredly, do.




Right, but now majority of the party are made up of leftist. The liberals not pushing for bans, I believe would go along with the party.

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Mar 5, 2018 19:24:55   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Anyone who suggests that banning firearms would even be possible, is senile at best, an idiot at worst................along with anyone who fears such a thing. Anyone remember prohibition? That went well, didn't it?




Not according to liberal leaders, or the liberal Agenda 21

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Mar 5, 2018 19:31:30   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Bad Bob wrote:
The laughing matter is some fool taking on our Military with a pop gun.




There are over one hundred million consecutives, and how many in our military? Ever watch the news Bobby boy, see what small forces have had the Syria government on the run for over a decade. If not for Russia, the people could have taken Syria back.

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Mar 5, 2018 19:33:00   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
100% correct, control the masses through Marxist Socialist agenda. They have already revealed their intentions through Agenda 21 and begun closing off land to citizens, forcing people off their land in the process. To accomplish Agenda 21 in its fullest, they must remove all arms.

Notice the ignorance or denial of BadBob"s reply?


Repeal the archaic 2nd amendment!!!

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Mar 5, 2018 19:37:34   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There are over one hundred million consecutives, and how many in our military? Ever watch the news Bobby boy, see what small forces have had the Syria government on the run for over a decade. If not for Russia, the people could have taken Syria back.


Sure but they aren't a bunch of old fools with pop guns.

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Mar 5, 2018 19:45:13   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Repeal the archaic 2nd amendment!!!




It takes very little intelligence to understand the constitution is a living document. And you refuse to refuse to acknowledge the hundreds of speeches and quotes from our founding fathers clearly stating their 2 amendment intentions that every citizen have a fire arm. Just in the event a radical group arise seeking to transform America and remove arms, just exactly like leftist.
What I don't understand is why people that don't like America ideals and her founding, haven't moved to a Marxist society.

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Mar 5, 2018 19:49:58   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
It takes very little intelligence to understand the constitution is a living document. And you refuse to refuse to acknowledge the hundreds of speeches and quotes from our founding fathers clearly stating their 2 amendment intentions that every citizen have a fire arm. Just in the event a radical group arise seeking to transform America and remove arms, just exactly like leftist.
What I don't understand is why people that don't like America ideals and her founding, haven't moved to a Marxist society.
It takes very little intelligence to understand th... (show quote)


"It takes very little intelligence to understand the constitution is a living document." Right, time to join the 21 century.

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Mar 6, 2018 04:14:10   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"It takes very little intelligence to understand the constitution is a living document." Right, time to join the 21 century.




Bundy ranch is a perfect example of the 2nd amendment relevance in the 21 century. Are you aware of the outcome? Did you know that judges ruled that Bundy acted within his constitutional rights? And had he not taken the 18th century 2nd Amendment rights and rightly applied those same rights, are you aware the government would have taken everyone of his cattle and psychically removed him from his ranch?
It was only because of the 2nd amendment that citizens can defend themselves against government overreach.

Most Americans have heard of, or watched the television series "The Walking Dead". Throughout the series there are scenes of small bands seeking out food, guns, with a kill first mind set.

Scientists have been warning congress for over a decade to harden our electric grid against a solar flare capable of taking out the grid, also the ease of a terrorist group launching an EMP attack is now a genuine threat. The scenes of small groups killing, raping, for food would be a reality in the event of an EMP /Solar flare.
We know a solar flare capable of taking out the grid will happen (todate our power grid has not been hardened), it happened already in 1859 known as the Carrington Effect , taking down telegraph wires (melting them).
http://www.history.com/news/a-perfect-solar-superstorm-the-1859-carrington-event" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/amp/amp.history.com/news/a-perfect-solar-superstorm-the-1859-carrington-event#ampshare=http://www.history.com/news/a-perfect-solar-superstorm-the-1859-carrington-event

Since we recently see the extreme violence during the last decade, Ferguson, Baltimore, BLM, Antifa, and Berkeley University, you could easily multiple those violent events by one hundred. Every Christian hating, conservative hating liberal that has any sense would be seeking out Christian conservatives hoping they owned an AR-15 or any guns to protect their lives.

There are dozens of examples why our founding fathers believed so strongly that Americans should be armed, at the very least have the uninfringed rights to be armed, and Bundy ranch is a glaring example specifically why.

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Mar 6, 2018 04:18:44   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Bundy ranch is a perfect example of the 2nd amendment relevance in the 21 century. Are you aware of the outcome? Did you know that judges ruled that Bundy acted within his constitutional rights? And had he not taken the 18th century 2nd Amendment rights and rightly applied those same rights, are you aware the government would have taken everyone of his cattle and psychically removed him from his ranch?
It was only because of the 2nd amendment that citizens can defend themselves against government overreach.

Most Americans have heard of, or watched the television series "The Walking Dead". Throughout the series there are scenes of small bands seeking out food, guns, with a kill first mind set.

Scientists have been warning congress for over a decade to harden our electric grid against a solar flare capable of taking out the grid, also the ease of a terrorist group launching an EMP attack is now a genuine threat. The scenes of small groups killing, raping, for food would be a reality in the event of an EMP /Solar flare.
We know a solar flare capable of taking out the grid will happen (todate our power grid has not been hardened), it happened already in 1859 known as the Carrington Effect , taking down telegraph wires (melting them).
http://www.history.com/news/a-perfect-solar-superstorm-the-1859-carrington-event" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/amp/amp.history.com/news/a-perfect-solar-superstorm-the-1859-carrington-event#ampshare=http://www.history.com/news/a-perfect-solar-superstorm-the-1859-carrington-event

Since we recently see the extreme violence during the last decade, Ferguson, Baltimore, BLM, Antifa, and Berkeley University, you could easily multiple those violent events by one hundred. Every Christian hating, conservative hating liberal that has any sense would be seeking out Christian conservatives hoping they owned an AR-15 or any guns to protect their lives.

There are dozens of examples why our founding fathers believed so strongly that Americans should be armed, at the very least have the uninfringed rights to be armed, and Bundy ranch is a glaring example specifically why.
Bundy ranch is a perfect example of the 2nd amendm... (show quote)



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Mar 6, 2018 05:04:22   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Bad Bob, are you not capable of responding to the Bundy example?

You do realize that lack of a rebuttal inferring your position against the intent of the founding fathers as I quoted is empirical evidence and your ideology just went bankrupt.

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Mar 6, 2018 05:18:39   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Bad Bob, are you not capable of responding to the Bundy example?

You do realize that lack of a rebuttal inferring your position against the intent of the founding fathers as I quoted is empirical evidence and your ideology just went bankrupt.


I have no desire to debate your BS. I have heard the same BS for 40 years.

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