Guns etc: Here is a philosophical argument: The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians. I would expect the same restriction upon others that...

Richard Mondale Loc: Montana

Here is a philosophical argument:
The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.
I would expect the same restriction upon others that might wish to use such weapons upon civilians.
War grade weapons should be reserved for use against armies.
Also,
I would support identifying labels on bullets, missiles, etc. so the owner can be identified and called to account.

Gatsby

First, please provide a legal definition of "war grade weapons".

Then explain how to attach an "identifying label" to a bullet.

Since "war grade weapons" would seem to include bayonets, are you willing to give up your kitchen knives?

By the way, congratulations for providing the most half baked, hairbrained ideas ever yet proposed!

Richard Mondale wrote:

Here is a philosophical argument:
The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.
I would expect the same restriction upon others that might wish to use such weapons upon civilians.
War grade weapons should be reserved for use against armies.
Also,
I would support identifying labels on bullets, missiles, etc. so the owner can be identified and called to account.

rebob14

Richard Mondale wrote:

Here is a philosophical argument:
The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.
I would expect the same restriction upon others that might wish to use such weapons upon civilians.
War grade weapons should be reserved for use against armies.
Also,
I would support identifying labels on bullets, missiles, etc. so the owner can be identified and called to account.

AR15’s are not “war grade”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. You’re convoluting the language as well as the optics. The dreaded and evil and sentient AR differs from grand dad’s wood stocked hunting rifle only in ergonomics and ammo capacity. If you paint your car black and add red pin striping does it become the bat mobile? Also, putting ID on ammo would have no forensic value.........the person using an illegal weapon would also find ammo without ID. Debate is good....but........let’s try to keep it rational!!!

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Richard Mondale wrote:

Here is a philosophical argument:
The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.
I would expect the same restriction upon others that might wish to use such weapons upon civilians.
War grade weapons should be reserved for use against armies.
Also,
I would support identifying labels on bullets, missiles, etc. so the owner can be identified and called to account.

Would you expect a person to order 500 rounds of ammunition and each round inscribed with a series of numbers,do you have any idea how much ammunition is sold in this country each year and there is also the expense involved ,you probably donât care about that.Itâs a moot argument because itâs not that hard to reload at home and not that expensive.All we really need is this and there will be no school shootings.It’s simple but effective.I don’t know why everyone wants to make it so complicated.

Richard Mondale Loc: Montana

Gatsby wrote:

First, please provide a legal definition of "war grade weapons".

Then explain how to attach an "identifying label" to a bullet.

Since "war grade weapons" would seem to include bayonets, are you willing to give up your kitchen knives?

By the way, congratulations for providing the most half baked, hairbrained ideas ever yet proposed!

You are welcome. In this age of microchips it is very possible to attach such an identification oriented devise to the butt of a projectile, then track who bought it. As for what is a war grade weapon you should ask a combat veteran, or watch what mass shooters choose to use.

Richard Mondale Loc: Montana

rebob14 wrote:

AR15’s are not “war grade”, whatever that’s suppos... (show quote)

If you are going to put a bullet into something, I believe you should be proud that you did it, so autograph your bullets. The Semiautomatic AR 15 is a really nice 22. In the Old West guns were used for varmint control. Sometimes varmints can be humans.

Richard Mondale Loc: Montana

Hemiman wrote:

Would you expect a person to order 500 rounds of a... (show quote)

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, as is the case with "Gun Free Zones"

Gatsby

So you openly admit that you have no idea what your new catagory of "war grade weapon" is?
So you suggest asking any one of a million combat veterans to do this for you? You would get many thousands of differing definitions!
If you don't like that response, go to any prison and ask a mass killer for their definition?
Congratulations, again, on your ability to spew 100% pure nonsense!
As for your micro chips, you will have one heck of a time designing a micro chip that can withstand 60,000 pounds of pressure PSI,
withstand temperatures as high as 7,000 degrees F., and withstand the tremendous de-acceleration of impact!

Richard Mondale wrote:

You are welcome. In this age of microchips it is very possible to attach such an identification oriented devise to the butt of a projectile, then track who bought it. As for what is a war grade weapon you should ask a combat veteran, or watch what mass shooters choose to use.

bobebgtime Loc: Virginia

Richard Mondale wrote:

Here is a philosophical argument:
The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.
I would expect the same restriction upon others that might wish to use such weapons upon civilians.
War grade weapons should be reserved for use against armies.
Also,
I would support identifying labels on bullets, missiles, etc. so the owner can be identified and called to account.

The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians. Are you speaking of Article Nine? If large armed crowds became violent and ere threatening the National Guard would use war grade weapons. As they dide in May of 1970 @ Kent State University killed four wounded many others. The Guard used M! Rifles which I guess is a war grade weapons.

Morgan

Richard Mondale wrote:

Here is a philosophical argument:
The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.
I would expect the same restriction upon others that might wish to use such weapons upon civilians.
War grade weapons should be reserved for use against armies.
Also,
I would support identifying labels on bullets, missiles, etc. so the owner can be identified and called to account.

Excellent point

Morgan

bobebgtime wrote:

The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians. Are you speaking of Article Nine? If large armed crowds became violent and ere threatening the National Guard would use war grade weapons. As they dide in May of 1970 @ Kent State University killed four wounded many others. The Guard used M! Rifles which I guess is a war grade weapons.

A shameful time in our history, the massacre of 4 unarmed students, not a good example for your point, it was not a large armed crowd.

Richard Mondale Loc: Montana

Gatsby wrote:

So you openly admit that you have no idea what you... (show quote)

War Grade is as War Grade does. Gasoline can be weaponized into a weapon of mass destruction, so I'm not going to make a list.
I read a description of an easy way to evaluate what weapons were the best: Follow an Army after a battle. The worthless crap will be dumped in the ditch.

Gatsby

The only point he makes is the point on his "dunce hat", of which there clearly not enough to go around!

Morgan wrote:

Excellent point

Richard Mondale Loc: Montana

bobebgtime wrote:

The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians. Are you speaking of Article Nine? If large armed crowds became violent and ere threatening the National Guard would use war grade weapons. As they dide in May of 1970 @ Kent State University killed four wounded many others. The Guard used M! Rifles which I guess is a war grade weapons.

The M1 is a 30 cal semiautomatic. That would be a deer rifle. If you clamp it to a calibrated stand it become artillery. It is all in how you use it. Personally I use it for crop harvest.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Richard Mondale wrote:

The Constitution restricts the Army from using its war grade weapons upon civilians.

Where does it say that? I thought I knew the constitution fairly well, but that's a new one to me.