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Feb 13, 2018 01:10:51   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Problems such as, federal deficits, lack of funding, federal overreach, etc., can be solved in one step............States opt out of paying Federal income taxes, sales and excise taxes. Those monies previously going into the US Treasury, would now go into States coffers, to pay for all the stuff the States need.

The States can pay for it's own education systems, repair and replacement of roads, bridges and other infrastructure, and healthcare, without any Federal funding. Without Federal dollars flowing in, the federal government has no "carrot" to use against the States.

Why would States send money to DC, then beg for some of it to be returned? The idea of making high population States help pay for shit in another State, is anathema to personal accountability. The States don't need to help fund a Federal Army, as they have Armed Forces of their own, to help ensure the security of their State. The Federal government can find alternative sources of income, to pay for it's international meddling. BTW, we'd need to ban the Fed from borrowing money, but then - with no income from the States, it might be impossible for it to borrow anyway.

Instead of whining about what the Federal Government does not pay for, or arguing about what it does, we'd be limiting that emotional whirlpool to our own State. The States are already being required to do more for it's people, so why not just take care of all of it? It just makes sense for the citizens of each State to keep their money IN their State, to pay for stuff for their own people. Let each State handle their own air traffic control, travel security, etc. and we could eliminate the Department of Homeland Security ( what the hell do they do anyway?), the TSA, the DEA, BATF and a few other choice acronyms.

I can't find a Constitutional basis for most of what the federal government does ( or purports to do ), and I sure can't find a legitimate reason for most of the fees and taxes levied by the Federal government. To my mind, the easiest way to ensure a smaller Government................is not to have one. The States took care of their own business before there ever WAS a Federal government, and I'm confident they could do so again...........certainly far more cheaply and efficiently than the monstrosity we're paying for now.
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I hate to say this to the major but our states don't pay any income taxes. Only individuals and businesses do this. There are many people who think as you do but I don't see the states paying income taxes but would appreciate your proving what you said about that. I pay income taxes to my state but they don't turn around and share them with the feds. I am sure you know better but you allowed yourself to get a bit confused with that post.

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Feb 13, 2018 01:12:55   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
debeda wrote:
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Feb 13, 2018 02:22:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
guitarman wrote:
I commend the Mexicans who are trying to come in the right way, but why do we want another million Mexicans in the U.S. ? I don't think we should let any Mexican's in until the illegals go home.


I am in favor of welcoming anyone who is willing to go through the crap necessary to become a US citizen legally; regardless of their national origin. I am not in favor of wetbacks. There are people other than Mexicans and Central Americans sneaking into this country; and quite a few are starting to come in through Canada. Right now it is easier for some foreigners to enter Canada than it is for Americans. A US citizen with a DUI conviction has trouble entering Canada, but a Pakistani or Yemeni has fairly smooth sailing.

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Feb 13, 2018 04:22:04   #
debeda
 
Loki wrote:
I am in favor of welcoming anyone who is willing to go through the crap necessary to become a US citizen legally; regardless of their national origin. I am not in favor of wetbacks. There are people other than Mexicans and Central Americans sneaking into this country; and quite a few are starting to come in through Canada. Right now it is easier for some foreigners to enter Canada than it is for Americans. A US citizen with a DUI conviction has trouble entering Canada, but a Pakistani or Yemeni has fairly smooth sailing.
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Yes I agree. There are any number of illegals from many countries coming in

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Feb 13, 2018 07:52:36   #
son of witless
 
11r20 wrote:
Their policies who've always been supported by neocon trotsky's caused all of our deficits~~~Fixed it for Ya


Democrats maybe in the minority, but they always get more spending on welfare type programs. Always. It is how they maintain power.

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Feb 13, 2018 09:06:09   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I can't find a Constitutional basis for most of what the federal government does ( or purports to do ), and I sure can't find a legitimate reason for most of the fees and taxes levied by the Federal government. To my mind, the easiest way to ensure a smaller Government................is not to have one. The States took care of their own business before there ever WAS a Federal government, and I'm confident they could do so again...........certainly far more cheaply and efficiently than the monstrosity we're paying for now.
I can't find a Constitutional basis for most of wh... (show quote)


That's been my mantra for years. End it, and (finally!) live in peace. Of course, there were several States did just that about 150 years ago. They were attacked, conquered, and forced to rejoin the Union whether they liked it or not. Any move to repeat that process needs to, first and foremost, be prepared to fight this time, because a fight there will be.

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Feb 13, 2018 09:40:23   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
son of witless wrote:
Democrats need to be taxed at twice the rate of the good people. Their policies cause most of our deficits.


Apparently, you haven't been watching what the Congress and Trump are doing now............causing nearly a trillion dollar deficit. You do know the difference between Democrats and Republicans right?

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Feb 13, 2018 09:49:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Apparently, you haven't been watching what the Congress and Trump are doing now............causing nearly a trillion dollar deficit. You do know the difference between Democrats and Republicans right?


The problem is the Republicans seem to have forgotten.

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Feb 13, 2018 11:12:00   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Apparently, you haven't been watching what the Congress and Trump are doing now............causing nearly a trillion dollar deficit. You do know the difference between Democrats and Republicans right?


Is there a difference? Seems to me it's not very wide as they both expand government regardless.

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Feb 13, 2018 15:42:50   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
teabag09 wrote:
Agreed, they also aren't for us but for themselves. How do your become a multi millionaire on $160,000.00 salary? You get elected to either House of Congress.

We need to take a Machine Gun to our elected officials, both sides, as neither side, have our Country's wellbeing in their interest. That is one reason both sides want to dis-arm us. Not happening. Mike


elect me
let me fill my pockets
reelect me

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Feb 13, 2018 15:45:53   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
badbobby wrote:
elect me
let me fill my pockets
reelect me


Only if you fill my pockets too.

By the way, I have very deep pockets.

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Feb 13, 2018 16:16:52   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Only if you fill my pockets too.

By the way, I have very deep pockets.


The majority of politicians in DC are either currently or formerly lawyers. Any one of them who needs more than two terms to steal enough taxpayer money to live on for the rest of his or her life is either incompetent or an unacceptable glutton. Either way, that's why I never vote for an incumbent more than once.

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Feb 13, 2018 16:52:53   #
teabag09
 
Don't forget their pension for life, health care for life and lobbying. Mike
Loki wrote:
The majority of politicians in DC are either currently or formerly lawyers. Any one of them who needs more than two terms to steal enough taxpayer money to live on for the rest of his or her life is either incompetent or an unacceptable glutton. Either way, that's why I never vote for an incumbent more than once.

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Feb 13, 2018 18:20:43   #
debeda
 
teabag09 wrote:
Don't forget their pension for life, health care for life and lobbying. Mike


Yes disgusting. And the fact that they are exempt from social security and ObamaCare. UGH

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Feb 13, 2018 18:22:22   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
debeda wrote:
Yes disgusting. And the fact that they are exempt from social security and ObamaCare. UGH


Exempted themselves, no less. But it's good enough for you....

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