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Jan 11, 2018 19:24:08   #
Tgards79
 
JFlorio wrote:
Honestly. I wish he hadn’t put it like that as President but he’s telling the truth in an uncouth way. Not enough for me to loose sleep over. Hell Oprah said old white people need to die. Was she talking about me? Was she being funny? Hell I don’t know but don’t hate her cause she said it.
Tell me what you think the truth is. You agree that we should ban Haitians and Africans and accept Norwegians? He's the PRESIDENT! Oprah is not the President.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:30:04   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Tell me what you think the truth is. You agree that we should ban Haitians and Africans and accept Norwegians? He's the PRESIDENT! Oprah is not the President.


So just because Oprah is not a President she can be racist?? So its ok for me to say that all old black men should die?..Yeah he shouldnt of said that the way he did, but his main idea was right!!!Why are we supposed to protect all these foreigners and not legal citizens??

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Jan 11, 2018 19:30:20   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Tell me what you think the truth is. You agree that we should ban Haitians and Africans and accept Norwegians? He's the PRESIDENT! Oprah is not the President.


Nice try. I answered the question. The truth is what do most people from Africa or Haiti have to offer? Unskilled, uneducated people. We have enough. Accept Norwegians? Depends. What the individual has to offer. Trumps point was a good one. We accept people from poor third world countries all the time and people from Europe and the Scandinavian countries have to jump through legal hoops.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:31:14   #
Gatsby
 
"Politically Correct" President Trump in not, his accuracy is fine though.

Take a good look at the violent crime rates in those countries!

Tgards79 wrote:
Try it.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:32:05   #
Tgards79
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nice try. I answered the question. The truth is meh at do most people from Africa or Haiti have to offer? Unskilled, uneducated people. We have enough. Accept Norwegians? Depends. What the individual has to offer. Trumpsnpoint was a good one. We accept people from poor third world countries all the time and people from Europe and the Scandinavian countries have to jump through legal hoops.
You really don't get it. If that's your framework, take the skilled, educated people REGARDLESS of country, whether from Haiti, Senegal or Norway. It's just like saying "Blacks are lazy." It's racist. You are defining people invidiously.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:32:30   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Tgards79 wrote:
You have Senators and a congressional rep. Call them.


Why don’t you call them I sure they are used to hearing from you.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:32:50   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Gatsby wrote:
"Politically Correct" President Trump in not, his accuracy is fine though.

Take a good look at the violent crime rates in those countries!


He hasn’t said it yet but I’m sure race will be injected sooner or later.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:33:40   #
Tgards79
 
Hemiman wrote:
Why don’t you call them I sure they are used to hearing from you.
Because they won't listen to me. But they WILL listen to you. If you find it unacceptable, tell them. You are enabling Trump and letting him get away with being a jerk. He thinks you like it!

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Jan 11, 2018 19:35:02   #
Tgards79
 
Gatsby wrote:
"Politically Correct" President Trump in not, his accuracy is fine though.

Take a good look at the violent crime rates in those countries!
Look,do you understand that EVERY country has its share of geniuses, criminals and regular people? You don't define individual people by some arbitrary characteristic. This is the essence of racism.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:35:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Tgards79 wrote:
You really don't get it. If that's your framework, take the skilled, educated people REGARDLESS of country, whether from Haiti, Senegal or Norway. It's just like saying "Blacks are lazy." It's racist. You are defining people invidiously.


I knew that’s where you’d go. You guys on the left always do. I’m defineing people based on qualifications. You and your ilk only see race.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:35:55   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
JFlorio wrote:
Should Trump have worded it like that? I believe not. He is correct however. Especially Haiti. I know I'll be disagreed with by my conservative friends but I just think a President shouldn't speak that way. Especially in this day and age. If LBJ would have had the leaks and social media we have today blacks would vote straight Republican. He was one of the most racist Presidents we ever had.


What’s wrong with it,it’s just not PC crap .when referring to these countries the word shit hole is just replaced with third world ,means the same damn thing.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:37:08   #
Tgards79
 
proud republican wrote:
So just because Oprah is not a President she can be racist?? So its ok for me to say that all old black men should die?..Yeah he shouldnt of said that the way he did, but his main idea was right!!!Why are we supposed to protect all these foreigners and not legal citizens??
Of course not. Racism is unacceptable for anyone. And in particular for the President of the United States, who should stand for the idea that all people are created equal. And Trump was not lambasting all foreigner -- just Haitians and Africans. Not Norwegians. That is racism. It is not America. Where did you come from?Your ancestors were once "foreigners" -- do you understand that?

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Jan 11, 2018 19:37:23   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Tgards79 wrote:
Look,do you understand that EVERY country has its share of geniuses, criminals and regular people? You don't define individual people by some arbitrary characteristic. This is the essence of racism.


Racism,where would the Democrats be without that word.

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Jan 11, 2018 19:38:21   #
Tgards79
 
JFlorio wrote:
I knew that’s where you’d go. You guys on the left always do. I’m defineing people based on qualifications. You and your ilk only see race.
Trump is saying WHOLE COUNTRIES -- not your "qualifications." Do you understand that? The difference?

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Jan 11, 2018 19:38:38   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Hemiman wrote:
What’s wrong with it,it’s just not PC crap .when referring to these countries the word shit hole is just replaced with third world ,means the same damn thing.


Yes it does mean the same thing. Just not my style for a President. I would have called em third world countries. It’s his style. Won’t bother me. I like his policies so far.

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