One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Our Town and how Trump will destroy it
Page <<first <prev 36 of 40 next> last>>
Jan 17, 2018 01:44:55   #
Nickolai
 
lindajoy wrote:
I sure am glad we have debated the things in this post..... Saves a lot of time having to rehash what we have made clear to each other in previous discussion..

I’ll just say we view President Trump differently and leave right there..

Think as you will President Trump in proving the left wing wrong in his continued success.. He’s doing very well for this country and it is this country he lookes to protect, not all the others... I appreciate that!





Now we see Trump paid off a porn star in 2016 to keep quite about a sexual relationship that occurred in 2006 a year after he Married Melania further evidence of his character or lack thereof. As for success What is it the stock market bubble. Only 52 % of the American people own stock either directly or in a pension plan. To the other 48 % they could couldn't care less about the stock market. Now he wants us to pay for his wall. Says he has 10 ways to make Mexico pay but he hasn't revealed the secret. Already California vegetable growers have had to let some crops rot in the field for lack of labor. There is a shortage of farm labor. He has been in office for one year and wants credit for the unemployment stats. But those states began in early 2010 and have continued. it is about now that we should be seeing any affect on the economy from any of his policies He hasn't gotten any major pieces of legisaltion passed fust a bunch of executive orders rolling back regulations that wee put there for a purpose.

In 1933 FDR pushed through 15 major pieces of legislation in his first 100 day's including the Glass Stegall Act that put a firewall between Investment and depository banking, insurance buisness, and brokerage houses. The affects of these bills did not show an affect on the economy until 1934, so generally speaking it takes about a year for economicpolicies to take affect. So now is when we should be watch wach whats happenin. I don't have a problem with protecting our boarders and closely vetting refugees. The US doesnt make it into the top ten of countries that help poor countries but we shovel billions out to Israel who reslly doesn't need help they are doing nicely scrunching the Palestinians into smaller and smaller spaces

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 02:48:39   #
bilordinary Loc: SW Washington
 
Only 52%, what a dilldoo!

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 03:28:06   #
JoyV
 
Nickolai wrote:
Now we see Trump paid off a porn star in 2016 to keep quite about a sexual relationship that occurred in 2006 a year after he Married Melania further evidence of his character or lack thereof. As for success What is it the stock market bubble. Only 52 % of the American people own stock either directly or in a pension plan. To the other 48 % they could couldn't care less about the stock market. Now he wants us to pay for his wall. Says he has 10 ways to make Mexico pay but he hasn't revealed the secret. Already California vegetable growers have had to let some crops rot in the field for lack of labor. There is a shortage of farm labor. He has been in office for one year and wants credit for the unemployment stats. But those states began in early 2010 and have continued. it is about now that we should be seeing any affect on the economy from any of his policies He hasn't gotten any major pieces of legisaltion passed fust a bunch of executive orders rolling back regulations that wee put there for a purpose.

In 1933 FDR pushed through 15 major pieces of legislation in his first 100 day's including the Glass Stegall Act that put a firewall between Investment and depository banking, insurance buisness, and brokerage houses. The affects of these bills did not show an affect on the economy until 1934, so generally speaking it takes about a year for economicpolicies to take affect. So now is when we should be watch wach whats happenin. I don't have a problem with protecting our boarders and closely vetting refugees. The US doesnt make it into the top ten of countries that help poor countries but we shovel billions out to Israel who reslly doesn't need help they are doing nicely scrunching the Palestinians into smaller and smaller spaces
Now we see Trump paid off a porn star in 2016 to k... (show quote)


I've seen plenty of average income people and especially small businesses who are already benefiting from his policies. There are many small businesses who were boarded up which are being bought and opening new stores. With the stock market doing so well, more upper middle class and above are willing to put their money into start-ups or expansion of existing businesses. A friend of mine who use is an architectural artist who invented a new way to make concrete molds has started receiving royalty checks again from the concrete business who had been using his molds but had no work for the molds for years. I am getting paying clients again and I hope soon to be able to charge what I use to charge in the early 2000s. In the past decade I had cut my prices in half despite that my costs were higher. I know of many people average income who are getting raises.

As for farm labor, if there is a shortage why are so many migrant workers out of work and turned away from farm after farm? No crops are rotting due to lack of workers. And would it be the end of the world for farms to hire Americans? And don't say Americans won't do that work. It is a lie.

Unemployment stats stayed pretty stagnant under Obama. It was employment stats which had some increase under Obama. But when you take away his creation of jobs through government subsidization, TPP imported Asian workers he agreed to in the treaty, people who lost good jobs who too up two part time jobs to try to make ends meet. And 2 part time jobs for 1 full time good income job appear to be an increase in employment but in reality is a loss. If you want another good indicator of the economy look at the GDP. When Obama was elected he inherited a low GDP from Bush. It was 2.5%. Over the next 8 years his "improvements" brought the GDP to 1.2% by the time Trump was elected.

Executive orders Obama put there for a purpose? Like taking big chunks of the little remaining lands in western states? My state of AZ had more than 80% of its land unavailable for private ownership. But Obama wanted to take another 2 to 5%. Like water issues which prevented coal mining and put miners out of work? Or how bout something more small potatoes but scattered over more people which never made any big news splashes. Water and land management which forced beaver releases in the river running through the property I live on. In AZ, along the rivers there is a narrow strip of land known as riparian areas. This is only a narrow strip and easily disrupted. The beavers cut down so many trees that they are being replaced by invasive species. But anyone with sense and who cared to THINK would realize the environment could not support beavers now regardless of beaver living here back when much of the county was oak forest. The beaver would build dams which the river would undercut because of the type of fine sandy soil in the river beds. The dams would be left high and dry. None of the released beaver ever survived, let alone reproduced. After they died off, the government released more. This was repeated 4 time with the same results. But now we have more mesquite and salt cedars have invade the river. Trump stopped it.

There are many companies which have bid to build sections of the wall. But even without it, the ever increasing illegal crossings which escalated around 2012 and increased every year through 2016 (despite figures being released stating a decrease which was due to Obama's order that anyone caught within 30 miles of the border not be counted but simply released). In 2016 I saw 8 groups of illegals and several solitary people moving north who may have been illegals. We were burglarized several times by illegals. Some were caught and twice sheriff trackers traced them back to the border and other times north to the nearest highway. There were two types of groups. One type were mixed men, women, and children under armed guard usually a couple of dozen not counting the guards. The other type were all men. These groups ran from 15 to 30 people with oversized packs on their backs and heavily armed men with automatic weapons at the peripheries. My estimated count was around 150 illegals plus another 90 or so guards. Multiple times Border Patrol warned me of a group coming through and told residents to stay out of sight. A few times we were told they were following a known dangerous illegal which they were not allowed to detain under the rules for border patrol Obama had put in. After Obama's announcement in 2016 of the many places border patrol and ICE were forbidden to detain illegals, we had a big mass come in and there was a shootout at my mailbox between illegals with automatic weapons, border Patrol, and Sheriffs. In 2017 I saw zero illegals!!!!

FDR had almost no opposition to his plans as the crisis was so bad, and the people so demanding something be done; that the congress would rarely oppose FDR.

We fall 2nd in the world in the amount of foreign aide we give as of 2015. Only the European Union gives more aide. As for how much aide we give to Israel, Afghanistan alone receives more than twice as much aide.

Reply
 
 
Jan 17, 2018 05:01:11   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Nickolai wrote:
You just don't make political jokes with people you just met and don't really know. You tell that stuff to friends who share your political views not to strangers who are trying to be friend you. Turns out they are our neighbors who live down the street but we have never seen them since. I was trying to be friendly and make conversation It happened about 15 years ago and I don't remember the subject of the joke except it regarded a social wedge issue at the time and it was not funny it was a mean spirted and bigoted remark but she thought it was funny and just giggled and laughed Well maybe it was funny in Texas but it was not in San Francisco. It was stupid
You just don't make political jokes with people yo... (show quote)


You sure have a lot of people that would like to punch your lights out,could it be you?

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 05:22:22   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Hemiman wrote:
You sure have a lot of people that would like to punch your lights out,could it be you?


Nahhh, it's everybody else. He's always right.

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 10:27:22   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
lindajoy wrote:
I sure am glad we have debated the things in this post..... Saves a lot of time having to rehash what we have made clear to each other in previous discussion..

I’ll just say we view President Trump differently and leave right there..

Think as you will President Trump in proving the left wing wrong in his continued success.. He’s doing very well for this country and it is this country he lookes to protect, not all the others... I appreciate that!


lindajoy: nikki seems to enjoy biting the hands that feed him; not to mention the handlers who are filling up his Japanese "Honey Pot!" You're patience with him is amazing!

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 11:35:00   #
S. Maturin
 
Nickolai wrote:
I agree there is a kind of partnership between the Two majority political parties in the sense that they managed to make it impossible for a third party candidate to be elected President They have successfuly eliminated any serious competition. I dont see that the MSM touted anybody but reported news.
The DNC did keep Bernie Sasnders down with their super delegates which is not democratic. The RNC and Neocons did try to stop Schtruminski But where is the evidence they funded Clinton I don't believe it. They would rarther have nutter like Schtrumpinski that allow Clinton to win If for no other reaso that he wold noninate a nother nutter for the SCOTUS and Clinton would not. The Constitutional Republic neded reform and Democracy in this country has had to be fought for but for every two stepps forward the nutters drad us back a step they are highly resistant to change of any kind.

The Federal Reserve "is"part of the cause of decline but is is far more complex than that. The U.S. is following the same trajectory as all previous Empires, the decline and fall is enivitable, its just what happens to empires.
I agree there is a kind of partnership between the... (show quote)


Riiiiight. " I dont see that the MSM touted anybody but reported news."... Riiiiight.. I remember some chubby woman *moderator* for a debate giving Hillary the questions BEFORE the debate.. Donna something was her name.. and she also belonged to a minority to which the Clintons claimed total ownership. You must be willfully blind or helplessly blinded by propaganda.

And now-- annd NOW-- what percentage of the msm reportage is negative to our president? What percentage of reporting was negative for democrat Obama? C'mon, make up some numbers then I'll give you the results of two recent polls..

Reply
 
 
Jan 17, 2018 13:08:58   #
Nickolai
 
JoyV wrote:
I've seen plenty of average income people and especially small businesses who are already benefiting from his policies. There are many small businesses who were boarded up which are being bought and opening new stores. With the stock market doing so well, more upper middle class and above are willing to put their money into start-ups or expansion of existing businesses. A friend of mine who use is an architectural artist who invented a new way to make concrete molds has started receiving royalty checks again from the concrete business who had been using his molds but had no work for the molds for years. I am getting paying clients again and I hope soon to be able to charge what I use to charge in the early 2000s. In the past decade I had cut my prices in half despite that my costs were higher. I know of many people average income who are getting raises.

As for farm labor, if there is a shortage why are so many migrant workers out of work and turned away from farm after farm? No crops are rotting due to lack of workers. And would it be the end of the world for farms to hire Americans? And don't say Americans won't do that work. It is a lie.

Unemployment stats stayed pretty stagnant under Obama. It was employment stats which had some increase under Obama. But when you take away his creation of jobs through government subsidization, TPP imported Asian workers he agreed to in the treaty, people who lost good jobs who too up two part time jobs to try to make ends meet. And 2 part time jobs for 1 full time good income job appear to be an increase in employment but in reality is a loss. If you want another good indicator of the economy look at the GDP. When Obama was elected he inherited a low GDP from Bush. It was 2.5%. Over the next 8 years his "improvements" brought the GDP to 1.2% by the time Trump was elected.

Executive orders Obama put there for a purpose? Like taking big chunks of the little remaining lands in western states? My state of AZ had more than 80% of its land unavailable for private ownership. But Obama wanted to take another 2 to 5%. Like water issues which prevented coal mining and put miners out of work? Or how bout something more small potatoes but scattered over more people which never made any big news splashes. Water and land management which forced beaver releases in the river running through the property I live on. In AZ, along the rivers there is a narrow strip of land known as riparian areas. This is only a narrow strip and easily disrupted. The beavers cut down so many trees that they are being replaced by invasive species. But anyone with sense and who cared to THINK would realize the environment could not support beavers now regardless of beaver living here back when much of the county was oak forest. The beaver would build dams which the river would undercut because of the type of fine sandy soil in the river beds. The dams would be left high and dry. None of the released beaver ever survived, let alone reproduced. After they died off, the government released more. This was repeated 4 time with the same results. But now we have more mesquite and salt cedars have invade the river. Trump stopped it.

There are many companies which have bid to build sections of the wall. But even without it, the ever increasing illegal crossings which escalated around 2012 and increased every year through 2016 (despite figures being released stating a decrease which was due to Obama's order that anyone caught within 30 miles of the border not be counted but simply released). In 2016 I saw 8 groups of illegals and several solitary people moving north who may have been illegals. We were burglarized several times by illegals. Some were caught and twice sheriff trackers traced them back to the border and other times north to the nearest highway. There were two types of groups. One type were mixed men, women, and children under armed guard usually a couple of dozen not counting the guards. The other type were all men. These groups ran from 15 to 30 people with oversized packs on their backs and heavily armed men with automatic weapons at the peripheries. My estimated count was around 150 illegals plus another 90 or so guards. Multiple times Border Patrol warned me of a group coming through and told residents to stay out of sight. A few times we were told they were following a known dangerous illegal which they were not allowed to detain under the rules for border patrol Obama had put in. After Obama's announcement in 2016 of the many places border patrol and ICE were forbidden to detain illegals, we had a big mass come in and there was a shootout at my mailbox between illegals with automatic weapons, border Patrol, and Sheriffs. In 2017 I saw zero illegals!!!!

FDR had almost no opposition to his plans as the crisis was so bad, and the people so demanding something be done; that the congress would rarely oppose FDR.

We fall 2nd in the world in the amount of foreign aide we give as of 2015. Only the European Union gives more aide. As for how much aide we give to Israel, Afghanistan alone receives more than twice as much aide.
I've seen plenty of average income people and espe... (show quote)







FDR had plenty of opposition with the conservatives on the SCOTUS so much so he tried to pack the SCOTUS. He knew before taking office in 1933 that he was going to face opposition from the court Three years in to office the first cases reached the court and they began striking down key pieces of the New Deal causing FDR great frustration . I dont know where you live but in California it has been reported in the local news that the is a shortage of farm workers and a report that a farmer had to let a crop of cabbage get plowed under for a lack of pickers.

The US spent .19 % of its income last year on forign aid last year the same as Spain and Portugal. As a percentage of income Sweden was the most Gernerous followed by other Scandanian countries, Norway ,Luxembourge, ect. And all of this activity you report has demand for products suddenly increased. If so where has the money come from wages to the average non supervisory working men and women hass been flat since 1973 and with un emplymet at a 17 year low wages has not increased. So give me an idea where this the increased demand is coming from
More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S. So I dont know where you get your info but your wrong the numbers of Mexicans commng to the US is fewer than thos going back. Last year the most popular Mexcan Restaurant in San Francisco had to close their doors because all of their Employees went back to Mexico not because of the ornge god king but because they could not afford to live here

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 13:19:54   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
FDR had plenty of opposition with the conservatives on the SCOTUS so much so he tried to pack the SCOTUS. He knew before taking office in 1933 that he was going to face opposition from the court Three years in to office the first cases reached the court and they began striking down key pieces of the New Deal causing FDR great frustration . I dont know where you live but in California it has been reported in the local news that the is a shortage of farm workers and a report that a farmer had to let a crop of cabbage get plowed under for a lack of pickers.

The US spent .19 % of its income last year on forign aid last year the same as Spain and Portugal. As a percentage of income Sweden was the most Gernerous followed by other Scandanian countries, Norway ,Luxembourge, ect. And all of this activity you report has demand for products suddenly increased. If so where has the money come from wages to the average non supervisory working men and women hass been flat since 1973 and with un emplymet at a 17 year low wages has not increased. So give me an idea where this the increased demand is coming from
More Mexican immigrants have returned to Mexico from the U.S. than have migrated here since the end of the Great Recession, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from both countries. The same data sources also show the overall flow of Mexican immigrants between the two countries is at its smallest since the 1990s, mostly due to a drop in the number of Mexican immigrants coming to the U.S. So I dont know where you get your info but your wrong the numbers of Mexicans commng to the US is fewer than thos going back. Last year the most popular Mexcan Restaurant in San Francisco had to close their doors because all of their Employees went back to Mexico not because of the ornge god king but because they could not afford to live here
FDR had plenty of opposition with the conservative... (show quote)


Why couldn't they afford to live there?

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 13:29:02   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why couldn't they afford to live there?


archie bunker: Just let them be stupid and they will die out!

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 13:39:03   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
archie bunker: Just let them be stupid and they will die out!


Yeah, but I want to see his long winded answer as to why I should send 15 hours of my 40 hour paycheck to California to keep a restaurant open.

Reply
 
 
Jan 17, 2018 13:40:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
lindajoy: nikki seems to enjoy biting the hands that feed him; not to mention the handlers who are filling up his Japanese "Honey Pot!" You're patience with him is amazing!


He’s a good one to learn patience with but I guess it goes back to knowing he is molded as they molded him and blind to what is really going on in the world..

c'est la vie~~~

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 13:42:12   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
Yeah, but I want to see his long winded answer as to why I should send 15 hours of my 40 hour paycheck to California to keep a restaurant open.



Just send Slatt, hell keep it open, problem solved..

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 13:43:06   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why couldn't they afford to live there?


Don’t ask questions, arch ~~ lolll

Reply
Jan 17, 2018 13:58:29   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
lindajoy wrote:
He’s a good one to learn patience with but I guess it goes back to knowing he is molded as they molded him and blind to what is really going on in the world..

c'est la vie~~~


“Laissez les bons temps rouler” Cher!

Reply
Page <<first <prev 36 of 40 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.