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Dec 10, 2017 10:00:23   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
So just how well are you doing in life?
Just what is it that you feel Trump can or will do just for you?

I have adjusted to the life that is out there.
My life touches those with more & those with not much & a lot who are in-between.

That is even with in my family.
That is not quite right.
There are not any with out much in my family.
We all have at least a little left over.

Lets just say for me & mine the American Dream is alive
But as I look around there are for too many that Dream will never happen.

My personal well being safety is greatly impacted by the safety & well being of others.
Or the lack of it.
One thing is that few of you out there don't realize is I am not looking for Trump or any one else in politics doing any thing that would help me personally.

I have mentally, physically & finically what I feel I need to get by.
I will play your game with your rules.
While I may not be a big winner I will not be a loser.

That is the best most of us will ever do.
All I say that is needed is to have some what of an even playing field.

A LITTLE LESS AT THE TOP. A LITTLE MORE AT THE BOTTOM. THE MIDDLE CAN & WILL TAKE CARE OF IT'S SELF.

We just need those in the middle to come to the conclusion that, that is the best fore all of us.
So just how well are you doing in life? br Just w... (show quote)


Floyd Brown: A socialistic viewpoint is not acceptable by the majority in a democracy or a republic. The wealth of a “free Nation” should not be redistributed and called the “duty “ of the wealthy. The so-called wealthy deserve less criticism as their accomplishments and fortunes were usually amassed by their intelligence and hard work.

To spend valuable time and energy degrading the wealthy only leaves less time for one to achieve his own goals.

I feel that the poor or working class should get a break. They do. An intelligent look at the many luxuries and governmental funded perks allocated to the poor and low-income residents reveals who pays and who receives.

The thousands of social programs, scholarships, welfare. Medicaid, protective services, and the list goes on and on. describe the endless items available to the nonproductive inhabitants of our land. Yes, these are paid for by the wealthy, not the poor. At some future time, the wealthy may ask, “Give us a break.”

Jealousy is a very time-consuming waste of potential energy. The secular movement in America has eroded the Family Unit, The capability of our Churches, and elimination of incentives to Big Business to donate! What you need to realize is that about half of American philanthropy, volunteering and associational memberships is directly church-related, and that religious Americans also account for much more nonreligious social capital than their secular neighbors. In that context, it is worrisome for the culture that the U.S. as a whole has become markedly more secular since 1960. The Culture Communist are at the route of your problem!

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Dec 10, 2017 16:33:03   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
sgtcharlestreadwayusmcr wrote:
Hate to tell you this, but that's the game, has been going on ever sense history began. It's just a FACT of life.
Get use to it or just die, your choice.
Did you have this much trouble while, Obama was in office raising the debit and taxes?
Giving billions to foreign governments? The ones that hate us.
There's far more to life then money, and it look like all these anti-Trump people are just going to keep haveing their mental breakdowns for the next 8 years.



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/politics/19taxes.html


Memory test....

You have no recall of obama and the payroll tax deduction for 95% of American workers????


After further prodding — including a reminder that a provision of the stimulus bill had cut taxes for 95 percent of working families by changing withholding rates — Mr. Paratore’s memory was jogged.

“You’re right, you’re right,” he said. “I’ll be honest with you: it was so subtle that personally, I didn’t notice it.”

Continue reading the main story
RELATED COVERAGE


In a troubling sign for Democrats as they head into the midterm elections, their signature tax cut of the past two years, which decreased income taxes by up to $400 a year for individuals and $800 for married couples, has gone largely unnoticed.

In a New York Times/CBS News Poll last month, fewer than one in 10 respondents knew that the Obama administration had lowered taxes for most Americans. Half of those polled said they thought that their taxes had stayed the same, a third thought that their taxes had gone up, and about a tenth said they did not know. As Thom Tillis, a Republican state representative, put it as the dinner wound down here, “This was the tax cut that fell in the woods — nobody heard it.”

Actually, the tax cut was, by design, hard to notice. Faced with evidence that people were more likely to save than spend the tax rebate checks they received during the Bush administration, the Obama administration decided to take a different tack: it arranged for less tax money to be withheld from people’s paychecks.

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Dec 10, 2017 18:07:17   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
permafrost wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/politics/19taxes.html


Memory test....

You have no recall of obama and the payroll tax deduction for 95% of American workers????


After further prodding — including a reminder that a provision of the stimulus bill had cut taxes for 95 percent of working families by changing withholding rates — Mr. Paratore’s memory was jogged.

“You’re right, you’re right,” he said. “I’ll be honest with you: it was so subtle that personally, I didn’t notice it.”

Continue reading the main story
RELATED COVERAGE


In a troubling sign for Democrats as they head into the midterm elections, their signature tax cut of the past two years, which decreased income taxes by up to $400 a year for individuals and $800 for married couples, has gone largely unnoticed.

In a New York Times/CBS News Poll last month, fewer than one in 10 respondents knew that the Obama administration had lowered taxes for most Americans. Half of those polled said they thought that their taxes had stayed the same, a third thought that their taxes had gone up, and about a tenth said they did not know. As Thom Tillis, a Republican state representative, put it as the dinner wound down here, “This was the tax cut that fell in the woods — nobody heard it.”

Actually, the tax cut was, by design, hard to notice. Faced with evidence that people were more likely to save than spend the tax rebate checks they received during the Bush administration, the Obama administration decided to take a different tack: it arranged for less tax money to be withheld from people’s paychecks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/19/us/politics/19ta... (show quote)


perm: You lose so much credibility with your interest in the NY Times rant machine!

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Dec 11, 2017 13:16:03   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Floyd Brown: A socialistic viewpoint is not acceptable by the majority in a democracy or a republic. The wealth of a “free Nation” should not be redistributed and called the “duty “ of the wealthy. The so-called wealthy deserve less criticism as their accomplishments and fortunes were usually amassed by their intelligence and hard work.

"What is going on here in American is today is not acceptable to the majority."
"It is what we once had that many hang on to."

To spend valuable time and energy degrading the wealthy only leaves less time for one to achieve his own goals.

"While you are busy making some one richer for your gain. There is another person looking for more ways to get more of your money."

I feel that the poor or working class should get a break. They do. An intelligent look at the many luxuries and governmental funded perks allocated to the poor and low-income
residents reveals who pays and who receives.

The thousands of social programs, scholarships, welfare. Medicaid, protective services, and the list goes on and on. describe the endless items available to the nonproductive inhabitants of our land. Yes, these are paid for by the wealthy, not the poor. At some future time, the wealthy may ask, “Give us a break.”

Jealousy is a very time-consuming waste of potential energy. The secular movement in America has eroded the Family Unit, The capability of our Churches, and elimination of incentives to Big Business to donate! What you need to realize is that about half of American philanthropy, volunteering and associational memberships is directly church-related, and that religious Americans also account for much more nonreligious social capital than their secular neighbors. In that context, it is worrisome for the culture that the U.S. as a whole has become markedly more secular since 1960. The Culture Communist are at the route of your problem!
Floyd Brown: A socialistic viewpoint is not acce... (show quote)


Do you ever read any financial news.
How do sports stadiums' & areas get financed. Just how much government money is involved.
Business looking to expand want city's or states to bid on what they will offer for the move to that area.

Businesses prefer to look to government to do things to help their bottom line.
Rather that to pay a reasonable wage putting money in to the system to create a demand for the products produced.

Demand is what creates true growth not production.
If you are a producer more demand for what you produce is far better for your bottom line than more production from any where.

Check & see just why & support to businesses, From favorable taxes to out right-monetary grants.
The list is endless.
This contributes to the problems we are seeing.

The few with the most are the biggest gainers in all of this.
The richer they get the more they want.

We are now controlled by those that have the most from the market place & have change the laws allowing them greater control over government.

THE PROBLEMS WE FACE TODAY WILL NEVER BE CHANGED AS LONG AS SO MANY WISH TO PLACE ALL OF THE BLAME ON THE POOR.
LOOK AT WHERE ALL OF THE CONTOL, POWER & WEATHE IS ENDING UP.

Are you so comfortable in you little cocoon with you closed eyes on what is really going on that you truly do not wish to see the light?

How much looker must we reward the Few?
How much more do they want?

Are you & I the next on the list to fall through the cracks in the system.

I wish I could wish you a good day.
But in the face of all that is going on there is not much good to look forward to.

I have not given up.
I see the good in people & it is that that is where we need to look for the strength to face the future.

Let me assure you that as long as people will elect the choices of Political Parties.
Parties that put the Party before the Public.
We will face the seeming never ending destruction of the system you seem to think we still have.

We need to stop trying to put labels on what our form of Nation should called.

We all need to look inward to our self & search our soul's until we can let each other see the best we all can be.
For it is with in each of us to find the best way to live with each other.

To me that is the first & most important thing we all need to do.
In so many ways we all ready we do that now.
We just need to bring this out by showing the inborn trust we have in each other.

Those that seek endless Power over others lack the deep trust in others & only seek more.
Most of us are fine in giving & supporting power in others;

But when we do that we do deserve respect & a sharing with all that is gained.

What is needed to change? The first thing is to stop rewarding money more that human effort.

Changes will keep coming & until we stop being divided on issues of importance's there will be more we won't like.

The World is going to become a better place no matter what you may think or feel now.

Sorry for the length but is only because of the need I see to reach out to another who I feel has what is needed in their heart & soul to provide the insight needed in the search for the way of life we both deserve.

After all we both see things are not the best & we both look at it with a different view.
I say it is far better for individuals to seek common ground that to let Political Parties decide what we end up with.

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Dec 11, 2017 13:38:10   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Do you ever read any financial news.
How do sports stadiums' & areas get financed. Just how much government money is involved.
Business looking to expand want city's or states to bid on what they will offer for the move to that area.

Businesses prefer to look to government to do things to help their bottom line.
Rather that to pay a reasonable wage putting money in to the system to create a demand for the products produced.

Demand is what creates true growth not production.
If you are a producer more demand for what you produce is far better for your bottom line than more production from any where.

Check & see just why & support to businesses, From favorable taxes to out right-monetary grants.
The list is endless.
This contributes to the problems we are seeing.

The few with the most are the biggest gainers in all of this.
The richer they get the more they want.

We are now controlled by those that have the most from the market place & have change the laws allowing them greater control over government.

THE PROBLEMS WE FACE TODAY WILL NEVER BE CHANGED AS LONG AS SO MANY WISH TO PLACE ALL OF THE BLAME ON THE POOR.
LOOK AT WHERE ALL OF THE CONTOL, POWER & WEATHE IS ENDING UP.

Are you so comfortable in you little cocoon with you closed eyes on what is really going on that you truly do not wish to see the light?

How much looker must we reward the Few?
How much more do they want?

Are you & I the next on the list to fall through the cracks in the system.

I wish I could wish you a good day.
But in the face of all that is going on there is not much good to look forward to.

I have not given up.
I see the good in people & it is that that is where we need to look for the strength to face the future.

Let me assure you that as long as people will elect the choices of Political Parties.
Parties that put the Party before the Public.
We will face the seeming never ending destruction of the system you seem to think we still have.

We need to stop trying to put labels on what our form of Nation should called.

We all need to look inward to our self & search our soul's until we can let each other see the best we all can be.
For it is with in each of us to find the best way to live with each other.

To me that is the first & most important thing we all need to do.
In so many ways we all ready we do that now.
We just need to bring this out by showing the inborn trust we have in each other.

Those that seek endless Power over others lack the deep trust in others & only seek more.
Most of us are fine in giving & supporting power in others;

But when we do that we do deserve respect & a sharing with all that is gained.

What is needed to change? The first thing is to stop rewarding money more that human effort.

Changes will keep coming & until we stop being divided on issues of importance's there will be more we won't like.

The World is going to become a better place no matter what you may think or feel now.

Sorry for the length but is only because of the need I see to reach out to another who I feel has what is needed in their heart & soul to provide the insight needed in the search for the way of life we both deserve.

After all we both see things are not the best & we both look at it with a different view.
I say it is far better for individuals to seek common ground that to let Political Parties decide what we end up with.
Do you ever read any financial news. br How do sp... (show quote)


floyd brown: Give up....You're one that just can't educate!.....I've been there and done that!!

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Dec 11, 2017 17:41:16   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
floyd brown: Give up....You're one that just can't educate!.....I've been there and done that!!


I know that the Worlds a mess & many out there will just settle to let others control how they think & what they will let them do.

I have a degree of comfort in my life Mentally & with the Physical things around me.

I feel that I have little to be loss & much to gain in offering Trust in others.
My Trust is not Blind.
It is not a blanket trust on all things or all people.

Educating others is not the primary reason of my posts.
My being on this site was one of finding out more of who I am & why.
All with the thought in mind that I should think & do the things that make me a part of what is needed.
To do things that are best for my self & good for those I come in contact with.

To be in tune with the World around me.

I look at the people I meet on this site as people that are Decent & have a Moral Compass.
It is the World around us filled with uncompromising problems that leaves us all ill fit to deal with them all.
So we at many levels band with others to bring an element of control over things.
This leaves us with Rights & Obligations.

Not all have the Rights they deserve.
Many do not meet their Obligations granted under those Rights.
Now we have some that accept or may be even demand their Rights.
Now there are some of those who fail to meet the Obligations that come with those Rights.
The issue seems to be that some Rights come with out Obligations for them.

Now this is what I believe & that I have the Right here on this site to post it.

You & others have the Right to read or not.
Any readers can comment on it if.

All of this in seeking & finding understanding of & with others if & as they choose.

No matter if you accept or reject on ever just ignore what I write it is there for you & others to react to.

Each of us has one reason or another for being here.

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