Loki Loc: Georgia

Have you seen the so-called autograph? It looks like two different pens. Can you say forgery?

Sassy Lass

An expert has already declared the signature as forged. I do believe there's something stinky going on in Denmark!

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Just wondering,what would you accept as proof of guilt in this specific case?

Sassy Lass

Just as any crime, there should be witnesses, corroborating evidence, and proof that a crime actually occurred. This "she said-he said" does not prove anything. In fact, that it took 38 years to come forward, that two of the accusers have a blemished record, the timing, all of this simply makes me believe this is more slimy tactics from the Left.

Your thoughts?

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

1 - There are generally no witnesses to sexual assault of women, unless there is a gang-rape situation.
2 - I think we need to define corroborating evidence. One woman shared her experience with others at the time it occurred. There have now been 5 women claiming to have had inappropriate advances from Moore. Are these corroborating evidence? I don't know.
3 - Though listing "proof that a crime actually occurred" as a separate condition, you still have not defined what "proof" is. Remember proof in a court of law means beyond a reasonable doubt.

Personally, I do not like anything about Moore and what he stands for.
But I also do not like to see attempts to try and convict people in the media (conservatives continue to attempt that with Obama and Clinton.)

So this is a conundrum. I do not know the answer, but I do know if proof is required we need to be clear about what constitutes proof.

Tgards79

What evidence is that? Plenty are people are now quoted as saying Roy Moore used to hang around malls in that time frame, trolling for teens.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Plenty of people are now quoted as saying Obama used to hang out around gay bathhouses. Using your standard of proof, our former president is a closet queen.

Carol Kelly

Tied!

Carol Kelly

Absolute proof, yes. But that cannot be obtained after all these years and its he said, she said. Not admissible in a court of law, only on Fake news. And in the Senate! Moore's wife is into it. She believes him and as long as she believes him, I'm with her. The RINOs want to get rid of him.. Hes a Christian. Fought to keep the Ten Commandments on the Courthhouse lawn, opposes abortion, among other things. If the people of Alabama are so weak (and I don't think they are), then may God help them. I know a lot of the
Good people of Alabama, related to many of them and they're not stupid.

Kevyn

it isn’t he said she said, it is he said she said, she said, she said, she said she said all with collaboration from people the women confided in. Add to that his bumbled denial on Hannity where he excused dating young teen girls while in his 30s by claiming he asked their mother’s permission, what a joke.

Loki Loc: Georgia

You don't find it the least bit odd that throughout a fairly tumultuous career spanning decades, none of these women saw fit to come forward while the statute of limitations was still in effect? Perhaps they were afraid of what would happen in court, when they would be cross examined under oath?
You don't find it odd that none of these women saw fit to come forth back in the primary?
You don't find it odd that they had a blanket cure for amnesia as soon as it became apparent that Moore's opponent was losing badly?
You don't find it odd that one of the women claiming criminal conduct has falsely accused at least three other men, all clergy, of the same thing; and that this same woman lied about her age at the time of the alleged incident?
She has also been divorced three times. She seems to have problems with interpersonal relationships.
As for the others, one is a volunteer worker for Moore's opponent whose memory conveniently returned after lo these many years when her boss started losing badly.
The "signature" in the yearbook is being investigated as a forgery.
Sexual predators don't "get over it;" they continue their predations. The only allegations against Moore are from questionable accusers and are nearly forty years old. If Moore was a predator, there would have been other accusations a little bit closer to the statute of limitations.
Of course, that would require a trial, and some proof other than someone's accusation.

Carol Kelly

No, but I do believe that he's in a same sex marriage and that is why he fought so hard to "change " America. Among other things. Look at how the LGBTQ have grown in influence. And my standard is the law. In England, you are guilty til proven innocent.
We use their law of precedent, but here we are innocent until proven guilty. That's the way it should be. If I'm accused wrongly, I hope someone remembers that and I have a chance. Did I answer your question? Where do you find fault with me on this?

Carol Kelly

You are the joker!

Loki Loc: Georgia

I was replying to Tgards.
I guess I misposted. Oops. Sorry.

Sassy Lass

Well said!