straightUp Loc: California

Try as he might... How many times over the past seven years have the Republicans tried to kill the ACA? ...to the point of jeopardizing the operation of the government itself. Then in 2016 the Republicans took control of the legislature AND the presidency and they STILL couldn't kill it because they couldn't keep the insanity pure enough... members of their own ranks defected... failing to ignore the needs of their own voters or simply realizing that being conservative doesn't mean they HAVE to screw the people.

And so the Clown-in-Chief himself decided to go it alone and destroy the healthcare system that millions of Americans depend on by defunding it (which is another word for breach of contract)... He also cut down the enrollment period. He has done everything his tiny hands can do to sabotage what his conflicted party wouldn't repeal.

And yet...

So far, this minimized enrollment period is breaking records for the most signups ever! ...and that's just the 39 states that use the federal exchange. Other states that have their own ACA-compliant exchanges such as CoveredCalifornia are also breaking enrollment records.

according to The Hill...

On the first day of enrollment alone, Nov. 1, one source close to the process told The Hill that more than 200,000 people selected a plan for 2018, compared with about 100,000 last year. More than 1 million people visited healthcare.gov that day, compared to about 750,000 last year, the source said.

Obviously, the American people DO actually WANT healthcare. These enrollments prove that. Not everyone in America is a moron. Most of us know that healthcare is important for ourselves and our families. Even MORE important than ideology! (Imagine that!)

A worthy president would of course recognize this. Even if he didn't like the way the ACA is structured or that a black president gets credit for initiating it, or WHATEVER hangups he might have... none of that matters next to the obvious fact that Americans need healthcare. Maybe next time we get to pick a president, we'll go with someone who actually wants to help the people instead of screwing them.

Alright... now for the cherry on top...

Get this... The highest increases in ACA enrollment are in states that voted for Clown. That's very telling. I DO realize that a lot of these people are dragging their feet to the exchange but we also drag our feet to our colonoscopies and pap smears. We don't do these things because we WANT to, we do them because we HAVE to... That is, *IF* we value our lives. And if there is only one doctor in town that's willing to help, then that's the one we go to.

I DO understand that people in these anemic states face greater frustrations because they don't have the same options that people in stronger states have and that has an impact on how well the market-driven ACA works for them. But they need to understand that killing the only doctor in town isn't the answer. The answer for them is to elect better lawmakers that are willing to invest in better healthcare options instead of sabotaging the only options there are. Until that happens and as long as their lawmakers ignore the need for capable healthcare, the ACA will be the only doctor in town.

So stop shooting at him, you silly people.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/359011-obamacare-signups-surge-in-early-days-to-set-new-record

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

If you want affordable health care investigate Teladoc.

EL Loc: Massachusetts

Once the government is involved in anything, it becomes twice as expensive and NEVER run as efficiently as it was before.
It also makes slaves of the people.
The government should not in any way be involved in our healthcare.

mark medicus

the ACA is a shell game that was not fully implemented until after the 2016 elections, as a democrat, this is a devastating law that affects american freedoms as well as reasonable healthcare cost.. the ACA, does not reduce cost and it's goal was a single payer system.
Remember, if OBAMA care is so great, then why is Congress exempt, the aids to the Congressman receive subsides, and if everybody is to have insurance, then why do we need charity hospitals, the VA hospitals, medicare or medicaid...think about it!!!

EL Loc: Massachusetts

Just went to the site. VERY interesting. Thank you!

straightUp Loc: California

Thanks for bringing that up Peewee... It's always good to research the options.

So, Teladoc... The name itself is telling... basically, diagnosis over the phone. What happens when the diagnosis leads to a need for an actual operation? I think it's great that we have options like Teledoc and MayoClinic for what's basically assisted self-diagnosis. I think it's great that people in some states can smoke pot to help alleviate discomfort too. But what happens when your problem isn't a simple headache or a burn or a scratch? What happens if the doctor on the telephone says you need to go in for a triple-bypass operation or die?

Are you going to do that over the phone too?

straightUp Loc: California

You really need to get past that propaganda. I'm actually surprised people actually still fall for that crap. I bet you NEVER looked at the facts, like how the overhead for Medicare is only 5% compared to an average 20% for private insurance. Let me explain something my confused little friend...

Billionaires don't want to share their money with you and the biggest threat they face in this respect is a democracy that demands they help fund services for people like you. So they invest in media campaigns to convince you that tax-funded services are horrible ideas. With any luck, the people will be stupid enough to buy it thereby dropping the demand for tax-funded services and leaving people like you with scams designed to maximize the profits they make from your problems.

Why people can't can't understand that just blows my mind.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Do you include Medicare and Medicaid?

straightUp Loc: California

It's STILL not fully implemented mark... If you paid ANY attention to ANYONE other than the detractors, you would know that it was initiated as a first-step. The ACA was NEVER presented as a complete system. The Democrats that passed the law made that VERY clear. It was ALWAYS considered by it's champions as a "first step" on a long road.


As someone who is NOT a Democrat, I completely disagree.


Actually, it has. I think you're the one being fooled by a shell game. It's a game played by detractors that point to the increases in healthcare costs since 2012 and hope that people like you won't have the intellect to the consider any factors like inflation and the fact that healthcare costs have been rising for decades before the ACA was even conceived OR the fact that the rate of cost increases have actually slowed down significantly since the ACA was implemented.

What you're doing here mark, is calling the brakes a failure the second after applying them because they failed to bring your car from 80 mph to a complete stop


That's a blatant lie. While some people might think of the ACA as a stepping to single-payer, the design of the ACA itself is nothing like it. The ACA is market-driven. Single-payer is not. The two options could not be any further apart. The closest the ACA ever came was the proposed public option which was never passed into law. Many advocates of single-payer support the ACA because they see it as the next-best thing, not necessarily as a step toward it.

What's interesting is how the Clown President and the GOP have inadvertently driven the demand for single-payer. If they had come aboard with the ACA we could have been much further down the road of improving it through market economics. But instead they chose to sabotage it on every possible turn, proving to the American people that we might not actually be capable of building a market-driven healthcare system that can meet the needs of the American people. So, naturally, the demand for single-payer is escalating.


All of those things existed BEFORE Obamacare... Maybe YOU need to do some thinking. LOL

straightUp Loc: California

Oh, look... A chart that shows the track record for how well the developed nations have been handling the rising cost of healthcare. Notice the American exception? That translates to a scam culture that seems to get stronger whenever Republicans are in power.

The only reason why we Americans pay so much more for so much less is because we are the biggest suckers in the world. Our stupidity is practically institutionalized.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/4331500522_58bd56e335.jpg

http://ritholtz.com/2010/12/u-s-health-care-costs-since-1980/

Kevyn

Congress is very specifically not exempt, they and their staff get their insurance on the exchange. Subsidies are tied to income.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

You will never see or hear it on (keepum stupid) FOX.

JRuss

The main reason health care in the United States is so expensive is the United States Eugenics Program that has been fully supported by the our last four Presidents. [Bushes, Clinton & Obama] This deliberate poisoning of our air, water, food, medications and vaccines is being done as an alternative to war as a means of population control. Here are a few references for more information:
https://youtu.be/yxyJl0WxqZ0 https://youtu.be/1Eks9B8pMRU http://useugenics.fartoomuch.info/
http://opinion.fartoomuch.info/HealthCare2.html With healthy air, water, & food and vaccines without mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde we would all be much healthier.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia