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Your brain knows when you've just died, researchers say
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Researchers at New York University's Langone School of Medicine said in an interview that people who've temporarily died are aware that their life has ended, and might be able to hear a doctor announcing their death.

Scientists at the New York City school told the Independent newspaper that they’re studying patients who've suffered cardiac arrest but have been revived. These doctors say some survivors recall vivid conversations that went on around them -- even several minutes after they were pronounced dead.

The paper defined death as the stage where the heart no longer beats and “blood flow to the brain” cuts off. Live Science reported that the cerebral cortex also slows down instantly and within two to 20 seconds flatlines.

“You lose all your brain stem reflexes,” Dr. Sam Parnia, director of critical care and resuscitation at the school, told the paper. “Your gag reflex, your pupil reflex, all that is gone.”

The evidence reportedly suggests a surge of brain activity immediately after a near-death experience.

"What tends to happen is that people who've had these very profound experiences may come back positively transformed — they become more altruistic, more engaged with helping others. They find a new meaning to life having had an encounter with death," Parnia said. "But there isn't like a sudden magical enhancement of their memories," he added. "That's just Hollywood jazz."
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Researchers from New York’s NYU Langone School of Medicine said in an interview that people are aware that they died, and might be able to hear a doctor announcing their death.
Your brain knows when you've just died, researchers say

Having died on the operating table twice I am glad for the confirmation of the experience.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

And I am quite pleased that you are still with us.

thinksense

CAVEAT.....
I know that many will not want to have the information that I have placed here. If you are very tied to “previews of Afterlife”, do not read what follows.




Many people seem to believe that when your heart has stopped, you have stopped breathing and your reflexes are gone that you are dead.

Several years ago Calif. required doctors to attend “resuscitation” classes every year where some EMT would lecture us like first year students on the procedures of emergency resuscitation. These first aid people invariably spoke of the victim as being “dead” until we resuscitated them. They wanted to take credit for bringing them back to life. (They were also invariably behind the times in that they wanted us to “breath for the victim”, a distasteful procedure at best. Every doctor in the room knew that it actually was unnecessary, and even somehow harmful since it had been discovered that heart pumping alone resulted in a greater number of successes than the combined procedure.)

Nonsense. Dead is dead. The ones who we “bring back" were never actually dead. They just had signs and symptoms that we today consider to indicate death. The recovered ones were in a deep coma, but the basic energies that produced the life force had not yet been totally extinguished.

In past centuries many people were considered dead and were buried, then later if for some reason their coffin was opened it was found that the victim had been buried alive. It happened so often that they started burying people with a guardian stationed over the grave for at least 2 days and a bell mounted over the grave and a rope leading down and into the coffin so that the “dead” person, awakening and finding himself buried could ring the bell for help.

Actually we now understand that there are states which appear to signal death but are not infallible. The body actually dies by degrees, not suddenly and all at once.

When a person is comatose he will have dreams. So I doubt that those who “came back from the dead” actually experienced anything other than mild coma in which they had dreams. You can have a dream that seems to go on for hours long in mere seconds, and when a nurse or doctor told them they had flatlined or died they chose to believe that the had seen part of the “afterlife”.

pafret Loc: Northeast

My brother lived in California and I lived on the East Coast. We got together infrequently even though we stayed in contact. On one trip I saw my brother getting up at 5:30 to attend six thirty mass each morning. I asked him when he became such a "holy Joe" he told me that he had several death experiences and actually saw his body on the operating table with the doctors working on him. In at least two of these episodes, his experience was profound because he apparently moved on toward judgement before reviving. His statement to me was that he knew there was an afterlife and he wasn't going to go the wrong way.

thinksense

There have been many reports of cases in which a patient "died" and left his body and floated around the room watching doctors working on his body.

Scientists have conducted some impromptu and also organized experiments to try to find what was really going on. These are of course hard to do since you don't know in advance when someone is going to flat line.

One experiment addressed the “floating overhead and observing” stories. The doctor wrote brief messages and/or brightly colored pictures on several large cards which he placed on top of different objects at differing heights, from 6 feet up to the ceiling in the operating room. A ghost floating up there would be able to see these cards.

These were brief simple word messages and/or pictures, in different bright colors, so that logically anything floating above them and able to see should have been drawn to them and seen them. There was a fair number of "near deaths" that recovered (I forget how many but it was something in the 30s or 40s over a several year span) who told of the "out of body and watching" episodes. There was not one patient who saw any cards or pictures while floating above. The doctor’s conclusion was that the patient imagined it while in the dream state induced by anesthetics and/or his stressed condition.

It is not unusual for an anesthetized patient (or unconscious person) to hear and remember some of what transpired during his unconscious period. (In fact doctors and assistants these days are very careful of what they say in those situations for exactly that reason. No more disparaging jokes in the operating room.) In the "Near Death" situation, no one ever saw a bright light that he was being drawn toward, until one person reported it in a book. Now almost half of "near deaths" report a white light.

Notice,we don't call them "deaths" because they aren't. They are "near deaths", and that is something different.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Thank you!! So am I, although it might be very interesting if a ghost were on OPP.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

There was a poster with the moniker of 'ghost.' Unfortunately, he is no longer with us.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

And that is too bad. He was really smart and had some good ideas.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

It is apparent the body does not know when it's brain has died, and continues to function without it...................as evidenced by the number of Democrats and Republicans running around.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

I actually believe this my Aunts DIL who was watching over my Aunt said she told her "" I'm leaving now "" and with that slipped out into the here after !

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

I also flatlined once, have this wierd memory of them using the paddles on my back which didnt happen, and sadly no profound spiritual insight, untill contiplated later. I had a bad reaction to meds they administered, and am told I was rather out of my mind for a bit. Yanked out my respirator, as I dreamed Someone shoved pencils down my throat. Gratitude that I would see my children again, that I had another
chance to do things right. And damn if I don't keep making the same mistakes.Next time I hope to die better. And more dignified please.
when Jesus is holding my hand I will know the journey is over.