slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

You know what's wrong with you, Randy131? When you're not lying/posting misinformation or disinformation, you're just plain uninformed or purposely obtuse. As I clearly showed you with my earlier post, you know remarkably little about the Founding Fathers, with James Madison in particular. You deftly skipped over my pointing out your glaring lack of "Factual history" in this response of yours.

I am again posting a response I gave you on my abhorrence for violent groups such as BLM, Antifa, KKK, alt-right, etc. You ignore much of what I write due to your undeserved arrogance and seething anger towards anything that doesn't suit your worldview. Even though this is a political forum open to discussion, you show anger and self-righteous indignation towards anyone who won't acquiesce to your way of thinking. Read the following from the thread and try to tell me once again where I don't voice my displeasure with the aforementioned groups you list in your self-righteous rant.

A post of yours from the thread 'So... about this Antifa group,' and mine in response to your accusations...

Aug 22, 2017 20:54:24 #
slatten49 (a regular here) (online) Joined: Aug 11, 2013 Posts: 34955 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Randy131 wrote:

Thank you Bobby, I really appreciate your attitude, but if Slatten is correct, and I am wrong, as he keeps saying, then why doesn't he answer the questions I put to him to prove which of us is really right, or at least acknowledge the facts in those questions, that most people agree are true and happened at Berkeley, Charlottesville, and Chicago, through the actions of the Antifa and BLM? He refuses to answer, and complains about my redundancy, which there would be no redundancy if he would just answer the questions that I put forward, that would prove which one of us is right in our conclusions, but instead doesn't want that proven by answering those questions, that are based on facts that occurred in Berkley, Charlottesville, and Chicago, perpetrated by AntiFa and BLM, which the alt-right were not in attendence at Berkley and Chicago, but the reuslts were identical in all three places, and antifa and the BLM did all the same things and tactics in all three places. Just answer the questions I put to him at least a half dozen times, which he purposely ignores and refuses to do so.

slatten49wrote:

You really are slow to grasp things, aren't you Randy? You keep insisting on what I state in my posts when the comments you speak of are the words/comments of the authors of the articles I posted. As I've said before, each of my posts you find most criticism with were forwarded with a disclaimer as to what purpose my posting them served...yet, you still can't seem to separate my words/thoughts from those of the writers. I spoke directly to my distaste/abhorrence for AntiFa, BLM and white supremacy groups in an earlier post, and yet again, you skim over what should be sufficient in answering your questions. How in the hell do you come off thinking I owe you any explanations that would be already been answered if you had the capacity to comprehend what has been offered you? Try reading my posts again, S-L-O-W-L-Y. Or, is it that you simply can't handle your obvious discomfort with the truth of my presentations?

Your insistence on attempting to get under my skin with your childish insults and accusations as to my qualifications as to being a patriotic American and a proud Marine just show again how angry, bitter and confused you are...as stated before. I will not denigrate your service in the Corps in such a manner...the USMC is a Brotherhood. You betray that Brotherhood with such underhanded and unfounded accusations.

I owe you nor anyone an explanation for my thoughts, service, patriotism or pride in being an American. If you had any sense of understanding in that stubborn, brick-hard ideological log-jam within your brain, you could get all the answers you seek by just just reading my posts with some comprehension instead of once again assuming and presuming without facts in evidence. Since so far you have failed to do so, I again challenge you to quote or otherwise present evidence of my being guilty of any accusation you have cast at me, to include my mentioning the young man who ran over and killed the young lady. I explained to you exactly what my points of contention were with regard to the misinformation and/or disinformation within your posts. If I had found anything else to factually challenge you, I would have presented arguments as I did with the permits and Jason Kessler. Not that would have done any good, as you seemed unable to decipher even those.

SEMPER FI

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

The question is who is gone. Try and keep up.

moldyoldy

Keeping up includes responding to the posts of others. Try it.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I understand slatt....i am no one to judge.....but you did remind me of the snickers commercial a little bit on that..

Good Times Inc

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

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Understood. But, I learned long ago that it can be a serious error to mistake tolerance/patience for cowardice. At nearly sixty-nine, I have developed a lot of tolerance/patience...but, only to a limited extent. Many may remember Kenny Roger's 'Coward of The County.'

One should be careful as to what they ask for.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Okay boys and girls.
I am back.
I am off of probation.
Just kidding.
Sounds like admin wants legitimate debate.
What a great objective.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Welcome back, Eagleye13? You haven't been gone long, 'cause I hadn't noticed. I noticed America Only having been gone ten+days.

In any event, good to have you back to stir the pot.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

I have never question your service or your patriotism, pull up something to prove that I have. I stated a simple fact, you are a coward, and I will gladly tell that to your face.

I don't need you or anyone else to glorify my service as a Marine, my record stands on it's own, as I also would suppose yours does too.

But that has nothing to do wih you blaming the white supremist, KKK, and altright for starting the violent riots in Charlottesville, and you did it because you thought it would be safe to blame who you thought were the most detestable of the two sides, but your most detestable were innocent of starting those violent riots in Charlottesville, as everything that happened there was an exact copy of what always happens whereever AntiFa and BLM show up to conduct what they themselves describe as a "Confrontational Protest". When I pointed out that modus operandi that they use at all the events that they go to, to create those violent riots that they also end up instigating, you refused to admit the detestable people that you blamed could actually be innocent of starting those violent riots in Charlottesville, which they were, and the few questions I put to you, had you the guts to answer them, would have proven that. You knew that it would, so your refused to answer those questions, because they would show you were wrong, and you may lose a little of the admiration that you always seek by taking both sides of everything, and giving disclaimers for sources that you use to prove your point.

That is disgusting and cowardly to me, and I don't have to wrap myself in my service to my country, or the flag, to make me look like a nice guy, those things I did many years ago, and I'm a different person today, as is the same situation with you.

You get no sympathy from me for having to go through therapy for doing and going through what a hundred thousand Marines went through in Vietnam.

How did I know about your therapy, again you brought it up out of the blue, for sympathy, and I don't like people fishing for sympathy, that some have had a hard time getting over, and most keep it to themselves because they are ashamed of it.

My younger brother was also a Marine, and he too went through the worse that there was in Vietnam, yet he doesn't talk about it, or fishes for sympathy for what he went trough for his country, as most all Marines that I know of act the same way as he and I do. We don't talk about what we did in Vietnam, not because we're ashamed of it, but because we don't want admiration or sympathy for simply doing our duty, as millions of Americans have done before us. We do like to speak of the good times we had while serving our country, but expect nothing in return, especially admiration or sympathy, as you seem to always fish for. Yeah, it's a brotherhood, but a silent and respectful brotherhood, not one for seeking admiration and sympathy as you use it for.

You could have stopped all this very easily, by admitting you were wrong on what I called you on in the Charlottesville incident. And yes, I saw your comments much later, after you ducked your responsibility of admitting when you made a mistake about what occured in Charlottesville, there again so you could take both sides, admitting much later what you refused to admit when you were caught taking the wrong side in Charlottesville, just so people wouldn't think the lesser of you, because you made one mistake in all your lukewarm attitude toward everything, seeking everyones approval, admiration, and sympathy.

Try growing up, real men admit when they've made a mistake, but not Slatten, because if he did he may lose some of that admiration and sympathy that he is always fishing for. You know what, some people know that just because a person speaks real nice about everything, doesn't mean that they always tell the truth, and you're a priime example of that. I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, and keep it up, these people will eventually learn that too, for the truth always comes out in the end. We can settle up when we meet. Keep taking both sides of everything, don't make a commitment for anything, orals mean nothing if you can't make everyone like you, do they.

I read a lot of your comments before I spoke up when you made a mistake, and wondered why you always took both sides of every situation that you spoke up on, and also wondered why you would do that. But I finally figured it out when I shot down one of your sources that was wrong, then you told me you always give a disclaimer on all the sources that you use to make your points, and then I understood it all, it became perfectly clear when you wouldn't even side with your own sources, that you were using to prove your points. You don't care about any points, that you or anyone else makes, you just want to be liked by everyone, so you always try to stay lukewarm and never commit to anything, unless you're positive that everyone else has already committed to it, like you thought about the Charlottesville incident, not realizing that there are some people who care more about the truth, no matter how detestable the people are that the truth is in favor for.

You can't take both sides of what I say can you, and that's good, for you may grow up a little from it, by finally showing some confrontational ability, but people are going to see how you really are, and face it, some may not like you as much, on both sides.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Real men don't obsess over their mistakes as you continually do, Randy. They let them go and move on. You can't seem to.

On this thread alone, not only have you been proven wrong on historical facts, but that you are (again) either a liar, misinformed and/or purposely obtuse. Your very own written words and my response to those words have proven your allegations of me wrong, and yet you still cling to that brick-hard log-jam within your brain. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall," and you are surely to fall/fail in your steadfast obsession with my having repeatedly called you out. You are becoming increasingly irrelevant and not worthy of any more of my time, given your intransigence and incorrigibility. Besides, your repetitive rants are now just boringly vengeful of my ability to haven proven you in error. Having been given two threads we have had conflicts on, along with this one, others can read for themselves...if they wish, the totality of those exchanges.

I wish you well, Jarhead, but remind you of what I wrote above to WeeWilly about being careful in what you wish for.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

Please go back and bring them all up, especially the one where you bragged to another how you made "road kill" out of me by your great reponses to by challenging you to just answer a couple of questions I put to you that would prove you wrong, which you have continually refused to do. So please put up all the threads of our conversations and what you said of me to others that were also reading those threads, for that will only prove everything that I've said to be true, so do what you say you can, repost all those comments between us about the Charlottesville incident. I dare you to, for I know what a coward you are and won't dare repost all those comments, and remember I have the same access to those as you do, so be sure not to leave any of them out, those showing your name calling, and your "road kill" comment about me, please, please repost them all.

Like I said, all you had to do was answer just two questions about that Charlottesville incident, that would have proven which one of was was correct, but you didn't want to be proven wrong, hurting your ego, that someone may think a little less of you because you made a mistake. You're a psycho, and can't stand to be proven wrong, and you prove that by even giving disclaimers with your sources you use to prove your points. Who in the world ever does something like that?

You're a kiss ass, complementing everyone, even those who have done nothing to earn it, making everyone feel good, so they'll feel good about you, so they won't say anything bad about you.

Running a construction crew for my uncle during the summers while in high school, being put in charge of many men in the Marine Corps, and running many of my own construction companies when I got off of active duty, I have run into may "kiss asses", and they do that because they want something, most easy duty, or the easiest job, or in your case, as another neighbor I once had, to be liked by everyone. That's why you always take both sides of any discussion, why you give disclaimers for your sources you use to prove your points, if case someone can prove them wrong.

I'm alright with your cowardice, for their is two of us that know about it, as these others think you're just a good time Joe, but I know how much you seek admiration and sympathy, you've proven it over and over again, with everyone of your post, and your bragging about having to go through psychic help for what you experienced in Vietnam, which I knew nothing about or even asked you about, but you wanted me to know about it so I would through sympathy quit calling you on your mistake, that you refuse to admit. But don't call me names because you fear someone might learn that you make mistakes, and fear that someone may think less of you for doing it. You know you were wrong about the Charlottesville incident, yet you still can't admit it, but use a comment you made much later that Antifa and BLM are as bad as I said they were, and put the proof to you to see, to give you the chance to correct yourself about the Charlottesville incident, but your psychic just won't allow you to admit you made a mistake, and use much later posts as an excuse that you now know what I tried to get you to admit when you were wrong about Charlottesville.

You're right, you took it too far, and so I won't forget, until you have the guts to tell the truth and admit you simply made a mistake by going with what AntiFa, BLM, and the liberals, progressives, and Democrats, with their lies about Charlottesville, because AntiFa and BLM are their liberal organizations, and the innocent ones, white supremist, KKK, and altright, that they accused of starting the violent riots, are so detestable to everyone. But you know what, I already know that you won't ever do that, you don't have the fortitude to admit that you're capable of doing anything wrong, especially after you've done it, you may claim that if you ever did make a mistake that you would gladly admit it, but that would be a proven lie, by everything that you've said in all the threads about the Charlottesville incident, and still refusing to answer two simple questions I gave you that would prove one of us wrong, while everyone else already know the true answer to those questions.

I don't want to waste anymore of my time on you either, you'll die a "kiss ass", with the fear that someone may not think the best of you, and you'd be right, I know and understand your kind perfectly, for nice talkers don't always tell the truth, and that's why they always talk so nicely. I simply put out the truth, which sometimes is not always nice.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Interesting take you have there, Randy. How could I have been a "kiss-a**" in handing you your a**, figuratively speaking, for all to see

I guess I should'a been nicer, so you'd think better of me.

Randy131 Loc: Florida

You tried that, it didn't work, it would have if you just answered my simple questions, that you and I know would have proven you wrong as who was at fault for the violent riots in Charlottesville, but you just couldn't answer those two questions, but your refusal at least proved that you would have told the truth had you answered them, which I have to give you credit for that, but you just couldn't accept that these people on this site might find out that you could be wrong on something, because how can you ever be wrong when taking both sides of any question or argument, and when you give disclaimers with all your sources that you use to prove your point is right and correct.

My ass is very easy to handle, if people are just truthful, and admit if they have made a mistake and may be wrong, which you wouldn't do because you fear people finding out that you can make a mistake, which making mistakes is only human, and we all do it, but not Slatten. That's your problem, but until you learn to deal with it, I'll always remind you of that, until you can learn to be humble and get rid of your hubris that overrides your fear of ever being proven wrong.

eden

You come across as angry, controlling and more interested in picking a fight than listening to someone else's point of view. Calling a man a coward is the same as calling him a liar and is a pointless and distracting escalation.
Acting out hostility can have consequences and if you are this confrontational with people in your family and community I would guess you are not having a lot of success at the craft of living.

eden

This may sound perverse but I will almost miss America Only calling me a steaming pile of dung. 😢

Randy131 Loc: Florida

You know, you haven't the slightest idea of what has been going on here, so I suggest you look up the original thread about the Charlottesville incident, and read all the comments between Slatten and me. There are a lot of them, and I caught him accusing the innocent of what the guilty did, and gave him two simple questions to answer to prove he was wrong in the side that he chose to defend as the innocent, who were actually the guilty, as the detestable parties turned out to be the innocent ones, which sometimes happens, and he refused to answer those two simple questions because he didn't want to prove himself wrong, and he knows the truthful answers would have shown he chose the wrong side to say was innocent, as he then condemned the real innocent as the guilty parties.

I tried my best to get him to answer those two questions, which had very simple answers, but he refused, and the comments started getting into name calling by both sides, and then he had the audacity to tell others that he destroyed me as "road Kill", but a week later he then condemned the real guilty parties, as even more evidence came out of what they have done at every event they attend, but still hadn't the guts to admit he was wrong.

I know Slatten rubs your ego with nice comments so you'll like him, he does that to everyone, because he has an unusual psychotic need for everyone to like him, which I could give a damn about, but I want the truth to be exposed, and he refused, because he feared people would think less of him if it was known that he could make a mistake, and he feared that he would lose the admiration that he seeks from everyone, always taking both sides of a discussion, and when he does try to make a point, he puts a disclaimer with it in case someone can prove his source false, and would still admire him when the source he provides is proven wrong.

I don't care if you like the guy, or that you don't like me, but the only thing that I've been trying to get to is the truth that he denied, and the two questions I put to him would have proven that, so through his cowardice to answer thos simplee questions that would have proven he made a mistake, and would only have to a[ologize to anyone who may even care about it, he refused the truth to keep from showing that he made a mistake and was wrong that one time. But he attacked me personally just as bad as I did him. But don't believe me, look up the threads and read them for yourself, all of them, not just the ones that Slatten would like you to see, then decide for yourself what is going on and who is right and who is wrong. But you'll see that everything that I have said is true, even the things that you don't like that I exposed about your friend, it happens, but pretty talk can hide a lot.

If I was controlling, I could have gotten him to answer those two simple questions, but he refused, because the answers would have proven him wrong, and he knew it. If I wanted to pick a fight, I would hunt him down and go at it, which may happen anyway if we ever meet face to face. I'm usuually very laid back, but I don't compromise my principles, and seek the truth to expose it for all, and don't like cowards who refuse to speak the truth, just so they can speak nicely and get everyone to like them.

Do you even know how scammers cheat people out of their money, by the same way Slatten tries to cultivate admiration and sympathy from all of you, and if you think that is not true, then I suggest you read all the comments from both of us to learn of everything that he told me, none of it asked of him by me, but wanted my sympathy to let the truth to stay hidden for his poor sake.

Before you get into this matter, first learn what you're getting into. I know that everyone on this site loves Slatten, but that doesn't mean he is always truthful, and that he doesn't make mistakes, all this just proves that he's scared to admit it when he does make a mistake, because he may lose some of the admiration and sympathy that he has spent so much time, kind words, and compliments to cultivate from all of you, and for some psychotic reason, he needs all that admiration and love from all of you, which I'm happy to see you give him, but don't tell me I'm wrong when I'm only trying to expose the truth that he keeps hiding, because it will prove he was wrong, something that all of you don't believe that could ever happen with Slatten, but it can happen to anybody, and it usually does, even Slatten.



[quote=eden]You come across as angry, controlling and more interested in picking a fight than listening to someone else's point of view. Calling a man a coward is the same as calling him a liar and is a pointless and distracting escalation.
Acting out hostility can have consequences and if you are this confrontational with people in your family and community I would guess you are not having a lot of success at the craft of living.[/quote]