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Oct 10, 2017 16:29:05   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
 
Oct 10, 2017 16:40:43   #
guitarman
 
permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)


If you got such a great case, bring it.
Oct 10, 2017 16:50:08   #
lpnmajor (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)


Since it is STILL going on, I don't think it CAN go away...............no matter how much Vlad hopes it will.
Oct 10, 2017 16:58:24   #
vernon (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)



the senate intel committee said there is not one bit of proof of anything criminal or illegal having been found in the entire investigation. NOT ONE
now lets begin an investigation of the bengausi thing
lets investigate the uranium thing ,you remember were old hil gave our uranium to the russians.
lets have an investigation into the irs thing.
lets have an investigation into the selling of our missile guidance systems to the russians.which is on north korean missiles that they are aiming at us now.that was old bills gift to the russians.
lets have an investigation into the fbi which seems to be owned by the demorats.

And i guarantee there is plenty there.
Oct 10, 2017 17:11:40   #
nwtk2007 (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)


I want it investigated to the nth degree! Leave no stone unturned!!
Oct 10, 2017 17:22:56   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
vernon wrote:
the senate intel committee said there is not one bit of proof of anything criminal or illegal having been found in the entire investigation. NOT ONE
now lets begin an investigation of the bengausi thing
lets investigate the uranium thing ,you remember were old hil gave our uranium to the russians.
lets have an investigation into the irs thing.
lets have an investigation into the selling of our missile guidance systems to the russians.which is on north korean missiles that they are aiming at us now.that was old bills gift to the russians.
lets have an investigation into the fbi which seems to be owned by the demorats.

And i guarantee there is plenty there.
the senate intel committee said there is not one b... (show quote)




Vern,

Benghazi had 9 investigations, so we have not even got a good start yet..

Uranium thing?? Explained over and over. Nothing at all done wrong..

IRS.. investigated and no charges.. Lots of fake news about it..

Missile guidance systems ??? New to me, got a link?

Investigate the FBI, for dropping fake news about Hillary 11 days before the election and not revealing about the active investigation into trump organization at the time?

Yes, I would go for that one..
 
Oct 10, 2017 17:32:06   #
Worried for our children (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)


Ok Frosty, let's pretend for a moment that the investigation has been concluded. To include all the instances you listed, the investigation has determined that there was "collusion"- can you show me what actual "crime" has been committed? Which criminal statute has been violated?
Oct 10, 2017 18:21:43   #
BigMike (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)


Oct 10, 2017 19:17:20   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Ok Frosty, let's pretend for a moment that the investigation has been concluded. To include all the instances you listed, the investigation has determined that there was "collusion"- can you show me what actual "crime" has been committed? Which criminal statute has been violated?



Worried,

That is a point that most have overlooked.

So does this mean no crime was committed or simply that we should be using a different term for the act?

Some paragraphs from several sources.. I would say the investigations will go on for some time yet..



note that collusion itself is not a specific federal crime—what matters is what kind of cooperation might have taken place and in what way. As to whether collusion did occur or a crime was committed, they said the jury is still out.


Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.

For example, if Donald Trump Jr. sought “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from the Russians, he might be charged with conspiring to violate the election laws of the United States, which prohibit foreign nationals from contributing any “thing of value” to an electoral campaign. The opposition dirt is at least plausibly a thing of value. And to the extent that the Trump campaign aided, abetted or advised the Russians (or any other hackers) about what would be most useful to steal from the Democrats or how best to enhance the impact of their release, they may well have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.


Of course, none of this excuses the apparent cover-up, which is often as bad as the original crime. Lying to the federal government in your registration forms or your security application is a false statement. Using the wires to perpetrate your crime is often wire fraud. In short, let’s stop talking about “collusion” and instead talk about real crimes that may, or may not, be proven—violations of election law, computer hacking, false statements and wire fraud.


The word “collusion” has been a terrible one to use in the Trump-Russia saga, since it doesn’t accurately describe either the criminal or counterintelligence aspects of what we know. On the criminal side, the word that would best describe an agreement between the Trump campaign and Russia to commit any number of crimes (say, election fraud) would be “conspiracy”—something that the recent release of Donald Trump Jr.’s email chain might support.

On the counterintelligence side, collusion is best described by the word “recruitment.” The aim of a foreign intelligence service is to find and convince individuals to help them achieve intelligence objectives. In the case of the election, the question is whether Russia was able to recruit American citizens, including people in the Trump campaign, to help them sway the outcome in Donald Trump’s favor. We are less likely to get direct public evidence of this since most of the information obtained by the FBI about Russia’s network and tactics will be classified unless someone is prosecuted for a crime.

But we have some clues that Russia may have been successful, such as Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn officially registering as foreign agents under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, or reports of a FISA order against Carter Page, which could only be obtained by showing a court that he was “knowingly engaged in foreign intelligence activities” on behalf of a foreign power. Even so, the criminal penalties for spying for a foreign intelligence service in non-defense-related areas are fairly weak, and I expect that Robert Mueller and the FBI will likely use any prosecutorial leverage they have over these individuals to get people higher up the chain for potentially more egregious criminal violations. The story is definitely not over, so stay tuned.
Oct 10, 2017 19:42:05   #
BigMike (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Worried,

That is a point that most have overlooked.

So does this mean no crime was committed or simply that we should be using a different term for the act?

Some paragraphs from several sources.. I would say the investigations will go on for some time yet..



note that collusion itself is not a specific federal crime—what matters is what kind of cooperation might have taken place and in what way. As to whether collusion did occur or a crime was committed, they said the jury is still out.


Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.

For example, if Donald Trump Jr. sought “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from the Russians, he might be charged with conspiring to violate the election laws of the United States, which prohibit foreign nationals from contributing any “thing of value” to an electoral campaign. The opposition dirt is at least plausibly a thing of value. And to the extent that the Trump campaign aided, abetted or advised the Russians (or any other hackers) about what would be most useful to steal from the Democrats or how best to enhance the impact of their release, they may well have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.


Of course, none of this excuses the apparent cover-up, which is often as bad as the original crime. Lying to the federal government in your registration forms or your security application is a false statement. Using the wires to perpetrate your crime is often wire fraud. In short, let’s stop talking about “collusion” and instead talk about real crimes that may, or may not, be proven—violations of election law, computer hacking, false statements and wire fraud.


The word “collusion” has been a terrible one to use in the Trump-Russia saga, since it doesn’t accurately describe either the criminal or counterintelligence aspects of what we know. On the criminal side, the word that would best describe an agreement between the Trump campaign and Russia to commit any number of crimes (say, election fraud) would be “conspiracy”—something that the recent release of Donald Trump Jr.’s email chain might support.

On the counterintelligence side, collusion is best described by the word “recruitment.” The aim of a foreign intelligence service is to find and convince individuals to help them achieve intelligence objectives. In the case of the election, the question is whether Russia was able to recruit American citizens, including people in the Trump campaign, to help them sway the outcome in Donald Trump’s favor. We are less likely to get direct public evidence of this since most of the information obtained by the FBI about Russia’s network and tactics will be classified unless someone is prosecuted for a crime.

But we have some clues that Russia may have been successful, such as Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn officially registering as foreign agents under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, or reports of a FISA order against Carter Page, which could only be obtained by showing a court that he was “knowingly engaged in foreign intelligence activities” on behalf of a foreign power. Even so, the criminal penalties for spying for a foreign intelligence service in non-defense-related areas are fairly weak, and I expect that Robert Mueller and the FBI will likely use any prosecutorial leverage they have over these individuals to get people higher up the chain for potentially more egregious criminal violations. The story is definitely not over, so stay tuned.
Worried, br br That is a point that most have ove... (show quote)


Not over? Geez...we've been into reruns!

I think a lot of people on the left will be disappointed when this foolish attempt to delegitimize the election turns on them.
Oct 10, 2017 19:54:36   #
Worried for our children (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
Worried,

That is a point that most have overlooked.

So does this mean no crime was committed or simply that we should be using a different term for the act?

Some paragraphs from several sources.. I would say the investigations will go on for some time yet..



note that collusion itself is not a specific federal crime—what matters is what kind of cooperation might have taken place and in what way. As to whether collusion did occur or a crime was committed, they said the jury is still out.


Collusion is not a federal crime (except in the unique case of antitrust law), so we should all just stop using “collusion” as a short-hand for criminality. But that doesn’t mean that the alleged cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia is of no criminal interest. To the contrary, if true, it may have violated any number of criminal prohibitions.

For example, if Donald Trump Jr. sought “dirt” on Hillary Clinton from the Russians, he might be charged with conspiring to violate the election laws of the United States, which prohibit foreign nationals from contributing any “thing of value” to an electoral campaign. The opposition dirt is at least plausibly a thing of value. And to the extent that the Trump campaign aided, abetted or advised the Russians (or any other hackers) about what would be most useful to steal from the Democrats or how best to enhance the impact of their release, they may well have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.


Of course, none of this excuses the apparent cover-up, which is often as bad as the original crime. Lying to the federal government in your registration forms or your security application is a false statement. Using the wires to perpetrate your crime is often wire fraud. In short, let’s stop talking about “collusion” and instead talk about real crimes that may, or may not, be proven—violations of election law, computer hacking, false statements and wire fraud.


The word “collusion” has been a terrible one to use in the Trump-Russia saga, since it doesn’t accurately describe either the criminal or counterintelligence aspects of what we know. On the criminal side, the word that would best describe an agreement between the Trump campaign and Russia to commit any number of crimes (say, election fraud) would be “conspiracy”—something that the recent release of Donald Trump Jr.’s email chain might support.

On the counterintelligence side, collusion is best described by the word “recruitment.” The aim of a foreign intelligence service is to find and convince individuals to help them achieve intelligence objectives. In the case of the election, the question is whether Russia was able to recruit American citizens, including people in the Trump campaign, to help them sway the outcome in Donald Trump’s favor. We are less likely to get direct public evidence of this since most of the information obtained by the FBI about Russia’s network and tactics will be classified unless someone is prosecuted for a crime.

But we have some clues that Russia may have been successful, such as Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn officially registering as foreign agents under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, or reports of a FISA order against Carter Page, which could only be obtained by showing a court that he was “knowingly engaged in foreign intelligence activities” on behalf of a foreign power. Even so, the criminal penalties for spying for a foreign intelligence service in non-defense-related areas are fairly weak, and I expect that Robert Mueller and the FBI will likely use any prosecutorial leverage they have over these individuals to get people higher up the chain for potentially more egregious criminal violations. The story is definitely not over, so stay tuned.
Worried, br br That is a point that most have ove... (show quote)


I appreciate your taking the time to look into my query, and cutting and pasting paragraphs from various sources. Now that you recognize "collusion" is not a crime, your question; "So should the investigation go away?" - assuming you mean the Russia collusion investigation, the answer is, yes. Unless of course you now would like to change the title of your topic to something a little more broad... say.... "After crawling up the backside of every person involved with the Trump campaign for eleven months and finding nothing, should we continue the investigation renaming it something else along the way, until everyone involved can prove their innocence?" (Those last three words are a play on how our justice system is supposed to work, just in case you missed it)
 
Oct 10, 2017 20:08:01   #
permafrost (a regular here)
 
Worried for our children wrote:
I appreciate your taking the time to look into my query, and cutting and pasting paragraphs from various sources. Now that you recognize "collusion" is not a crime, your question; "So should the investigation go away?" - assuming you mean the Russia collusion investigation, the answer is yes. Unless of course you now would like to change the title of your topic to something a little more broad... say.... "After crawling up the backside of every person involved with the Trump campaign for eleven months and finding nothing, should we continue the investigation renaming it something else along the way, until everyone involved can prove their innocence?" (Those last three words are a play on how our justice system is supposed to work, just in case you missed it)
I appreciate your taking the time to look into my ... (show quote)



You argument is very lame,,,

"Collusion" is being used to cover the several violations which have been violated..

This is also not about a do over of the election.. with luck this will send some of the trumpsters to jail..

I do not expect trump to get charged with anything..

Coming from a crime family, he is well practiced in not doing anything himself. He will always have a way to blame some one else or buy his way out..

Only 11 months?

We have learned from the right wing and GOP.. time and money mean nothing..

Still 8 more investigations and millions of dollars..

We were shown that in the quest of Benghazi.. Never out of time and money for more investigations..

and much is apt to be found in this case..

the orange man is getting more and more strung out.. shooting down his sect of state, leading republicans..

He cares not about anything other then hiding his own wrong doings..

he will hang if justice is done..

No one in the trump group is innocent.
Oct 10, 2017 21:05:35   #
Worried for our children (a regular here)
 
permafrost wrote:
You argument is very lame,,,

Just when I thought you were having a lucid day.
Quote:
"Collusion" is being used to cover the several violations which have been violated..

Really? Is that legal? They better have all their ducks in a row, wouldn't want anyone getting off on a technicality.
Quote:
This is also not about a do over of the election.. with luck this will send some of the trumpsters to jail..

You're going to need a lot of luck then. But don't wait for me to wish you any.
Quote:
I do not expect trump to get charged with anything..

Then why bother? He's apparently the monster fish you despise most, who cares about the guppies, really?
Quote:
Coming from a crime family, he is well practiced in not doing anything himself.

Crime family, eh Frosty? What crimes have he or his family been convicted of? Oh... righhhhttt, we're waiting for the investigation to be completed, I get it, there just has to be something!
Quote:
He will always have a way to blame some one else or buy his way out..

Gee, that reminds me of a book title. What was it.... oh yeah "What Happened" by: Hillary Clinton
Quote:
Only 11 months?

A conservative estimate. You're right, probably longer, and still nothing.
Quote:
We have learned from the right wing and GOP.. time and money mean nothing..

Still 8 more investigations and millions of dollars..

We were shown that in the quest of Benghazi.. Never out of time and money for more investigations..

Only difference being that, the death of four Americans were involved with that one, inconsequential to you I'm sure.
Quote:
and much is apt to be found in this case..

My guess, is probably much less.
Quote:
the orange man is getting more and more strung out.. shooting down his sect of state, leading republicans..

Still pushing the Tillerson myth, eh Frosty. Good for you, never stop running with a lie that's been debunked by the very person involved. 😁
Quote:
He cares not about anything other then hiding his own wrong doings..

he will hang if justice is done..

Now you're contradicting yourself. Above, you said you don't expect Trump to be charged with anything, now c'mon which is it...you can't have justice without a charge...
Quote:
No one in the trump group is innocent.

Nobody is in jail now are they, Frosty? All you seem to have is a bunch of wishful thinking...that sounds pretty lame....carry on my friend.
Oct 10, 2017 21:54:19   #
BigMike (a regular here)
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Nobody is in jail now are they, Frosty? All you seem to have is a bunch of wishful thinking...that sounds pretty lame....carry on my friend.


Um...has Trump bleached his hard drives and smashed his Blackberrys yet?
Oct 10, 2017 22:25:48   #
Ve'hoe (a regular here)
 
reply what the "thing" is,,, with cited proof and documentation,,,,,, of criminal intent,, which is why you have a "special counsel" investigation......

otherwise what you wrote here is a lie.... you ask for resonable discussions,,, then lie and insult... without proof



permafrost wrote:
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choice..

I think all should look harder at the smoke and using a clear head, think much harder about it.

So should the investigation go away?

This little note hits the nail on the head.

for my feelings at least..


I don’t know – it’s hard for me to see any trump ties to Russia…except for the Flynn thing and the Manafort thing
and the Tillerson thing
and the Sessions thing
and the Kushner thing
and the Carter Page thing
and the Ivanka hanging with the oligarchs thing
and the Roger Stone thing
and the Felix Sater thing
and the Boris Ephsteyn thing
and the Rosneft thing
and the Gazprom thing
and the Sergey Gorkov banker thing
and the Azerbajain thing
and the “I love Putin” thing
and the Donald Trump, Jr. thing
and the Sergey Kislyak thing
and the Russian Affiliated Interests thing
and the Russian Business Interests thing
and the Emoluments Clause thing
and the Alex Schnaider thing
and the hack of the DNC thing
and the Guccifer 2.0 thing
and the Mike Pence “I don’t know anything” thing
and the Russians mysteriously dying thing
and the Trump’s public request to Russia to hack Hillary’s email thing
and the Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king thing
and the Russian fertilizer king’s plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign thing
and the Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night thing
and the Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery thing
and the Cyprus bank thing
and Trump not releasing his tax returns thing
and the Republican Party’s rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
and the election hacking thing
and the GOP platform change to the Ukraine thing
and the Steele Dossier thing
and the Leninist Bannon thing
and the Sally Yates can’t testify thing
and the intelligence community’s investigative reports thing
and the Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all “fake news” thing
and the Spicer’s Russian Dressing “nothing’s wrong” thing
and the Chaffetz not willing to start an investigation thing
and the Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation thing
and the The Lead DOJ Investigator Mary McCord SUDDENLY in the middle of the investigation decides to resign thing
and the appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by trump in the trump university scandal appointed to head the investigation thing
and the The White House going into full-on cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and subsequent firing of Flynn thing
and the Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama thing
and the Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything thing
and the Agent M16 following the money thing
And now the trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway thing
and The Corey Lewendowski thing
and the Preet Bharara firing thing but before he left he transferred evidence against trump to a state level Schneiderman thing
And the Betsy Devos' Brother thing
And the Sebastian Gorka thing
And the Greg Gianforte from Montana thing
And the pence actually was warned about Flynn before he was hired thing
and the Pence and Manafort connection thing
And the 7 Allies coming forward with audio where trump was picked up in incidental wire tapping thing
and the carter Page defying the Senate's order to hand over his Russian contact list thing
and the Obama coming forward and sayin he warned trump directly thing
And the trump wants to VETO Sally Yates' testimony thing
and the trump tweets attacking Yates and defending Flynn thing
and the "no evidence of collusion" attributed to Clapper, who never said such a thing, thing.
and the amnesia epidemic that hit every member of the Inner circle when it comes to remembering meetings with Russians thing.
and the "18" days before Flynn was fired thing
and the witness intimidation through tweets thing
and the McGahn "Why does it matter to the DOJ if one White House official lies to another official?" thing
and firing Comey thing!
and the temporary FBI head, McCabe, being also under investigation thing
and the banning the US press but allowing the Russian press to the Russian ambassador Oval Office meeting thing!
and the Certified Letter thing!
and the threatening Comey thing!
and the firing of Comey thing!
and the I respect the investigation but it is a witch hunt and no president has been so persecuted thing!
and the Kushner back door thing!
and the appointing Christopher Wray, as head of the FBI, whos law firm represented the trump organization and has ties to Rosneft and Gasprom Russian organizations! Yea that thing.
and the blaming Obama for the Russian hacking that a week before he called a hoax and witch hunt!
and the Kushner/ trump jr meeting with Russia's top propagandist Natalia Veselnitskaya thing.
and Peter Smith who actually colluded with Flynn thing
And trump and Tillerson meeting privately with Putin thing.
And trump allowing VISAs to 150 known Russian spys thing.
And trump offering to work with Putin on a cyber security thing.
And the Natalia Veselnitskaya having dinner with a republican congressman after "the meeting" thing.

SO yeah there’s probably nothing there!"
Some on OPP seem to think this should be the choic... (show quote)
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