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Feb 18, 2014 13:43:06   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Kevyn wrote:
Public employees that do not contribute to social security do not get social security in old age, this saves the community's that pay them from making SS payments that they then are then supposed to put into pension plans. In the not so recent past most full time employees received decent benefits, job security and a pension in old age. Perhaps fighting to get those things back for the American worker rather than being envious of those who have maintained a middle class standard of living is what we should strive for.
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In the not so recent past GM was a successful company - in the not so recent past Hyundai wasn't. Guess why one needed a government bailout to survive

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Feb 18, 2014 13:53:20   #
FOXFIRE Loc: SW Commonwealth of Virginia
 
banjojack wrote:
They are only generous when you are an illegal with 10 kids.


Yep !

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Feb 18, 2014 14:48:28   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
What can anyone say, inflation is getting higher and family income is getting lower. It looks like we all will end up in poverty and in the soup lines.
Now the Federal Reserve has started shrinking the money supply and that willl make things worse, far, far worse.

wait until the dollar bill loses its place in the world because of massive debt...you ain't seen nothing yet! prices on basic goods will triple...sometimes 3 times in one day!!! look that up.

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Feb 18, 2014 15:11:58   #
Kevyn
 
Dave wrote:
In the not so recent past GM was a successful company - in the not so recent past Hyundai wasn't. Guess why one needed a government bailout to survive


Poor management and unfare foreign competition through so called free trade deals.

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Feb 18, 2014 15:54:03   #
FOXFIRE Loc: SW Commonwealth of Virginia
 
Kevyn wrote:
Poor management and unfare foreign competition through so called free trade deals.


Yep.

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Feb 18, 2014 16:19:31   #
Art
 
Dave wrote:
Government regulation worked wonders for California - and government regulations under Carter did wonders for natural gas - no matter how many times liberal ideas fail the liberals have a childlike faith they'll work the next time.

As to speculators, I'd offer two comments:
- speculators win and lose - if they are responsible for price rises they are also responsible for price declines
- and, the liberal hero, George Soros, is the biggest speculator of them all.


From your perspective how did regulation affect California? I'm looking for specific examples if you have any. Do you live in California and if you do, where do you live northern or southern Cal? in a city, suburb or rural? I guess I'm trying to understand better how you came about with your opinion.

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Feb 18, 2014 16:22:01   #
Art
 
banjojack wrote:
They are only generous when you are an illegal with 10 kids.


:D

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Feb 18, 2014 16:35:22   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Kevyn wrote:
Poor management and unfare foreign competition through so called free trade deals.


Wow - somehow all the American based companies had poor management while the foreign based ones had great management - and even when they produced here they outperformed the Americans. Interesting theory based on finding a way to deny the obvious.

As to fair trade - that too is empty - American consumers made their decisions based on what they saw as value for dollar spent - but then liberals always have problems with people making financial decisions for themselves -

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Feb 18, 2014 16:38:26   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Art wrote:
From your perspective how did regulation affect California? I'm looking for specific examples if you have any. Do you live in California and if you do, where do you live northern or southern Cal? in a city, suburb or rural? I guess I'm trying to understand better how you came about with your opinion.


I once lived in the Central Valley - but if you want to understand how I came about my opinion research the government regulation on electricity that mandated utilities purchasing practices - regulators required them to buy short and sell long - and when prices skyrocketed and the entire state experienced rolling black outs, the great cry was utility mismangement. The same management brought things back to earth once the regulations were rescinded.

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Feb 18, 2014 16:46:50   #
FOXFIRE Loc: SW Commonwealth of Virginia
 
Dave wrote:
Wow - somehow all the American based companies had poor management while the foreign based ones had great management - and even when they produced here they outperformed the Americans. Interesting theory based on finding a way to deny the obvious.

As to fair trade - that too is empty - American consumers made their decisions based on what they saw as value for dollar spent - but then liberals always have problems with people making financial decisions for themselves -


A Loser's mindset cannot be changed from one day to the next.

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Feb 18, 2014 22:59:50   #
Art
 
Dave wrote:
I once lived in the Central Valley - but if you want to understand how I came about my opinion research the government regulation on electricity that mandated utilities purchasing practices - regulators required them to buy short and sell long - and when prices skyrocketed and the entire state experienced rolling black outs, the great cry was utility mismangement. The same management brought things back to earth once the regulations were rescinded.


I will look into the government regulation on electricity that mandated utilities purchasing practices. I stayed for a summer about an hour away from Fresno about four years ago. It seemed that it was hit harder economically than other parts of California.

Thanks

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Feb 19, 2014 08:32:24   #
Liberty Tree
 


Food and energy costs are not factored into the inflation rate to give the impression that is lower than it is. Another Obama administration fraud.

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Feb 19, 2014 08:59:03   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Food and energy costs are not factored into the inflation rate to give the impression that is lower than it is. Another Obama administration fraud.


:thumbup: :thumbup:
Isn't cool how they work that? How dumb are we?

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Feb 19, 2014 09:12:42   #
HHspirit1955
 
Two simple steps in any order:

1. Shop at DOLLAR TREE
2. Get a JOB.

You'll be fine.

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Feb 19, 2014 14:20:57   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
Kevyn wrote:
Why worry? remember you will be able to live like a king on those super generous food stamp allotments. Chateaubriand and Lobster Thermidor every night! just like the lazy welfare folks.


I would rather eat old newspapers that go on the Dole.

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