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Jul 17, 2017 15:39:19   #
S. Maturin
 
Nickolai wrote:
That maybe true but there is no way of measuring the affect they had on public opinion. Hillary had a double digit lead in the polls then the hacking of the DNC began and se feel quickly to even Steven in the polls how different is the hacking from the break in at DNC headquarters in the Watergate affair. This is much worse by leaps and bounds and now we have the smoking cannon with the principles of the Trump campaign meeting Russian officials in Trump Tower two weeks after securing the nomination
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Hillary enjoying the declining whoopee ride was coincidental to anything other than her personality and obvious lack of human qualities like intellect, for instance. The electorate began to wake up about that time. You guys were intensively supporting a gold-plated loser but you were too engrossed to know it.

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Jul 17, 2017 15:44:39   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
I will never understand why anyone (except the chronically lazy and or criminal) would be against voter I.D. laws. Matter of fact I'm against early voting except for the elderly (to be defined state by state) and handicapped. If you can't stand in line or it's just too damn much trouble to get to the voting "booth" then maybe you shouldn't vote. I can't stand the thought of my vote being cancelled by an opposite vote given by someone that doesn't have the right to vote. Liberals don't mind because they don't care much about individual rights. It's all about the collective.
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Many elderly are unable to drive don't even own a car. In the case of North Carolina the Republican administration moved the voting places far from college campuses to small venues with tiny parking lots to make it hard for students who tend to vote Democratic and make people stand in line for hours any thing to make it harder for democratic voters and that is just one red state among all of them.

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Jul 17, 2017 15:46:10   #
Nickolai
 
RD49 wrote:
I do hope that all of the screeching, wailing, and gnashing of teeth makes them feel good because it sure is fun to watch. I would happily pull the lever for DJTrump again. Heck, I hope I'm still around in 2020 to do that very thing.







He is going to need you he has the lowest approval rating in 70 years and no new president has been this low at this point

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Jul 17, 2017 15:56:08   #
Nickolai
 
JimMe wrote:
There isn't any of the 30 States that voted for Trump in 2017 that would vote for any Dem... He may not be the Saintliest Pres to grace this Nation, but he sure isn't a NWO DemLib-Socialist... As for Voter ID, we in Arizona are required to have 2 ID's, one of which has a photo... But in the 12 years I've lived in Tucson, the polling staff in my District only required my photo ID Driver's License... Go figure...






The rust belt states tat are responsible for putting him in office will turn against him when they realize he is not going to fix their problems and couldn't if he wanted to Trumps hotel in DC is the news boggy swamp. A spoonful of Hungarian wine $140 a cocktail $23 a gin and tonic $140 a BLT $120 a massage at the Ivanka spa$460 ect ect ect

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Jul 17, 2017 15:56:15   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Nickolai wrote:
Jennifer Rubin - The Washington Post - Friday, July 14, 2017
The key insight from a week of gobsmacking revelations is not that the Russia scandal may finally have an underlying crime but that, as David Brooks suggests, “over the past few generations the Trump family built an enveloping culture that is beyond good and evil.” (Remember when the media collectively oohed and ahhed that, “Say what you will about Donald Trump, but his kids are great!”? Add that to the heap of inane media narratives that helped normalize Trump to the voters.) We now see that, sure enough, the Trump legal team (the fastest-growing segment of the economy) has trouble restraining its clients, explaining away initial, false explanations and preventing self-incriminating statements. (The biggest trouble, of course, is that the president lied that this is all “fake news” and arguably committed obstruction of justice to hide his campaign team’s misdeeds.)
Let me suggest the real problem is not the Trump family, but the GOP. To paraphrase Brooks, “It takes generations to hammer ethical considerations out of a [party’s] mindand to replace them entirely with the ruthless logic of winning and losing.” Again, to borrow from Brooks, beyond partisanship the GOP evidences “no attachment to any external moral truth or ethical code.”
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Let’s dispense with the “Democrats are just as bad” defense. First, I don’t much care; we collectively face a party in charge of virtually the entire federal government and the vast majority of statehouses and governorships. It’s that party’s inner moral rot that must concern us for now. Second, it’s simply not true, and saying so reveals the origin of the problem — a “woe is me” sense of victimhood that grossly exaggerates the opposition’s ills and in turn justifies its own egregious political judgments and rhetoric. If the GOP had not become unhinged about the Clintons, would it have rationalized Trump as the lesser of two evils? Only in the crazed bubble of right-wing hysteria does an ethically challenged, moderate Democrat become a threat to Western civilization and Trump the salvation of America.
Indeed, for decades now, demonization — of gays, immigrants, Democrats, the media, feminists, etc. — has been the animating spirit behind much of the right. It has distorted its assessment of reality, giving us anti-immigrant hysteria, promulgating disrespect for the law (how many “respectable” conservatives suggested disregarding the Supreme Court’s decision on gay marriage?), elevating Fox News hosts’ blatantly false propaganda as the counterweight to liberal media bias and preventing serious policy debate. For seven years, the party vilified Obamacare without an accurate assessment of its faults and feasible alternative plans. “Obama bad” or “Clinton bad” became the only credo — leaving the party, as Brooks said of the Trump clan, with “no attachment to any external moral truth or ethical code” — and no coherent policies for governing.
We have always had in our political culture narcissists, ideologues and flimflammers, but it took the 21st-century GOP to put one in the White House. It took elected leaders such as House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and the Republican National Committee (not to mention its donors and activists) to wave off Trump’s racists attacks on a federal judge, blatant lies about everything from 9/11 to his own involvement in birtherism, replete evidence of disloyalty to America (i.e. Trump’s “Russia first” policies), misogyny, Islamophobia, ongoing potential violations of the Constitution’s emoluments clause. (along with a mass of conflicts of interests), firing of an FBI director, and now, evidence that the campaign was willing to enlist a foreign power to defeat Clinton in the presidential election.
Out of its collective sense of victimhood came the GOP’s disdain for not just intellectuals but also intellectualism, science, Economics 101, history and constitutional fidelity. If the Trump children became slaves to money and to their father’s unbridled ego, then the GOP became slaves to its own demons and false narratives. A party that has to deny climate change and insist illegal immigrants are creating a crime wave — because that is what “conservatives” must believe, since liberals do not — is a party that will deny Trump’s complicity in gross misconduct. It’s a party as unfit to govern as Trump is unfit to occupy the White House. It’s not by accident that Trump chose to inhabit the party that has defined itself in opposition to reality and to any “external moral truth or ethical code.”
Jennifer Rubin - The Washington Post - Friday, Jul... (show quote)

There is so much liberal crap, psuedo intellectual garbage in this post, that I am dumbfounded. Sadly I know Jennifer Rubin, I used to clean her mothers summer "Compound", in Keene New York. Yes life is rough in the Adirondacks, Doctor Lawyer or service industry. At the time she was working for the New York Times in Afghanistan, anyway. All the education and flowery speech aside, it is still bullshit.

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Jul 17, 2017 16:02:46   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Nickolai wrote:
That maybe true but there is no way of measuring the affect they had on public opinion. Hillary had a double digit lead in the polls then the hacking of the DNC began and se feel quickly to even Steven in the polls how different is the hacking from the break in at DNC headquarters in the Watergate affair. This is much worse by leaps and bounds and now we have the smoking cannon with the principles of the Trump campaign meeting Russian officials in Trump Tower two weeks after securing the nomination
That maybe true but there is no way of measuring t... (show quote)
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No one in the meeting was a Russian official. The meeting was a DNC /obama led set up with Paul Manafort's phone tapped to capture the conversation.
The truth could and would put obama in jail.

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Jul 17, 2017 16:07:33   #
Nickolai
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Pat, you're not alone. Ronald Reagan started as a Democrat, as did Ruddie Juliano. Both started as Democrats because their parents were;When they started looking at things they both realizede that they agred more with the policies of the Republicans than the Democrats.





Reagan was a turn coat and helped create the Hollywood black list Loyed Bridges father of Jeff and Beau Bridges lost 8 years out of his career to the black list Reagans academy winning actress wife Jane Wyman divorced him in 1949 over the fact he ratted out his fellow actors to the House Un American Activities Committee, an un American activity if ever there was one

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Jul 17, 2017 16:09:01   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
Worried huh? Real shocker there snowflake. I'm still waiting for that savings of $2500 on my healthcare Obama promised. Now that's a lie that cost thousands. My insurance only went up $750/month. What about the red line in the sand. Had no idea he drew it for Russia. I don't know about embarrassment but Trump stands up for the U.S. unlike the last guy who was a serial apologist.








Trump is just a big mouth blow hard he is not going to fix shit

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Jul 17, 2017 16:13:11   #
Nickolai
 
tdsrnest wrote:
How much more would you be paying with the Old system with buying Junk policies yes some people had to pay more but they actually had real insurance









Right a lot of young people had theo e junk policies because they thought they would never need them. Obama care should have had a requirement " keep your junk policy but if you don't pay into the system then health care will be un available when you grow old and need it the most that's like trying to get fire insurance after your house burned down

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Jul 17, 2017 16:15:13   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
None of you frigging business what my policy covered asshole. The operative word is my. I read what it covered before I purchased it and was well satisfied. It covered everything I "needed". I liked my doctor also who I can't use with the ACA,. Out of network. That's the problem with you snowflakes. You are the "hand" of Government. Government takes a dump and you are more than happy to wipe it's ass.







I know its allways that way with pecker head conservatives ME,MY,I their favorite words

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Jul 17, 2017 16:17:13   #
Nickolai
 
1969skoops wrote:
I just went to the bank, bought a used 4x4 and had blood taken for some lab work. Any body care to guess what all of these have in common? I had to show a pictured I.D. None of these things could have been completed with out the I.D. And nothing is going to keep me from voting, so I want my vote to count!! So I have to ask myself, why does the left try so hard to try and stop any action to change the voting rules.






Because no body was complaining about voter fraud until a mixed race president was elected then all of a sudden we ere rife with voter fraud

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Jul 17, 2017 16:24:29   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
Nickolai wrote:
Because no body was complaining about voter fraud until a mixed race president was elected then all of a sudden we ere rife with voter fraud


You are full of dung and know nothing about any topic you post. Al Gore whimpered for years about "voters fraud" regarding his loss to GW Bush. You have a selective mind....and a zero memory. Of course, you love to post anything that is dishonest as long as it suits your puke minded agenda.

Do you liberals EVER tell the truth? Nope!

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Jul 17, 2017 16:27:42   #
Nickolai
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
But you idolize a man whose ass was ringed with other men.






I did not idolize Obama my wife and I liked him my wife especially liked his style and grace but he picked Robert Rubin and Larry Summers to be his economic advisors and both of those men played a great roll in repeal of Glass Stegall and the financial crises of 2008 that cost millions of people their homes savings and pensions. My idols are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren two people who fight to protect the little people from the predatory corporations and would like to see the Democratic party return to its New Deal legacy that they have been trying so hard to move away from. Bernie is an independent because if it

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Jul 17, 2017 16:30:10   #
Nickolai
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Wanna know why Trump won?
Trump won it at " birther ". He was the only one who had a microphone to call out obama.
Nothing gets a lefty more squirmingly pissed off than the fact brought up that their Barack Hussein Obama was born in Mombasa Kenya to an expatriate girl getting back at her parents for naming her Stanley.






Trump won because an advisor advised him if he wanted to win he would have to turn the rust belt red and to do that this is what you have to say and it worked , A total of about 80,000 votes in four rust belt states made the difference

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Jul 17, 2017 16:34:50   #
S. Maturin
 
Nickolai wrote:
Many elderly are unable to drive don't even own a car. In the case of North Carolina the Republican administration moved the voting places far from college campuses to small venues with tiny parking lots to make it hard for students who tend to vote Democratic and make people stand in line for hours any thing to make it harder for democratic voters and that is just one red state among all of them.


Oh, what A TERRIBLE HARDSHIP.

Do a bit of reading like what the ancestors suffered to vote. Some were to go up to two weeks from their homes and fields and businesses to travel to a place to vote over roads YOU or your flaky friends would not walk over for fear of getting your designer booties soiled.

Some folks are too damned delicate for the business of self-government.

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