ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Consider this:

The most popular theory of our universe's origin centers on a cosmic cataclysm unmatched in all of history—the big bang. This theory was born of the observation that -- other galaxies are moving away from our own at great speed, in all directions, as if they had all been propelled by an ancient explosive force.

If all the other galaxies are moving away from us -- (in all directions) -- would that not indicate the universe is indeed expanding?

Are we such small specks in the universe that we are irrelevant?

Are there other life forms like ours, out in space somewhere?

Are we alone?



NGC 4414, a typical spiral galaxy in the constellation Coma Berenices, is about 55,000 light-years in diameter and approximately 60 million light-years away from Earth

maureenthannon

I beleive in another Big Bang theory: God said it, and,BANG!!, it happened

bahmer

I like that expression as I haven't heard anyone ever use it that way.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Our galaxy, the milky way, is not centrally located in the universe and in reality is off to one side. Not all galaxys are moving away from us either. For example, M31.....the Andromeda galaxy is moving toward us and the projection is we will collide with them in 4 billion years. This is but one example. Galaxys move in different directions, some away from, some toward other galaxys. This is counter to any centrally located big bang theory.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

I've often wondered, has anyone ever plotted from where all these galaxies are moving, in other words, the original singularity or center?

susanblange Loc: USA

Our sun is the center of the Universe and also the Universe's source of Energy. God is Energy and is the husband of the Messiah/Lord. Psalm 19:4-5. "...in them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber..." God is also the forces in nature. Electromagnetism, gravitation, and the nuclear forces. Daniel 11:38. "But in his estate shall he honor the God of forces..."

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

Umm, no.

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It still is expanding, probably still the effects of the momentum of the big bang, but I would think that it we are the only Universe, we will eventually reverse this expansion due to gravitational pull.

We are not irrelevant. We are all relevant to ourselves, family, and friends. But in the overall spectrum, we are virtually irrelevant.

In all probability, life on earth is not the only life in the Universe. Many might have evolved far further then us and many less evolved.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

The reversal of the expansion due to gravity is now up in the air. Recent observations suggest the expansion is speeding up and the question is: can gravity reverse the acceleration?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_expansion_of_the_universe

If we are the only universe.....nice touch. You enjoy astronomy?

thinksense

The theory that all things in the universe are moving away from each other at a terrific speed is based on "the Red Shift", based on the fact that things moving away so fast are thought to demonstrate a color shift toward red. That theory leaves holes as big as the universe. At this point in time there is no one who truely knows anything. Even the theory that light moves at a constant speed has now been shown to be in error. So what is a light year really.

Theoretical "Scientists" who have the same limitations as you do based on the fact that we only have five senses, come up with a lot of theories and need to sell them to be able to get grants, which of course is their life blood. So of course they manage to come up with "stuff" that they can take to the bank. Believe almost nothing these people put out.


One reason Einstein's theories are not understood by anyone, is because they are just stuff that other scientists can't understand. His General Theory of Relativity wasn't even dreamt up by him. An Italian published that theory a year before Einstein announced it.

Enjoy their Sci Fi stuff, but remember most of it is Sci Fi.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

As I said previously, our galaxy is not centrally located and not all galaxys are moving away from a geometrical center. Our galaxy and M31 are moving toward each other and not away from any universal center. There are current theories that the universe is shrinking not expanding due to gravimetrical forces. Not all galaxial movement can be attributed to the force of gravity.

The question related to the big bang is if everything came from a cataclysmic explosion, where did the unimaginable combined mass of all that exists in the universe come from?

Science would have us believe that the explosion caused everything to materialize at the atomic level and over billions of years coalesced into all that exists, but denys the much more logical existence of God.

And, if all that now exists came from that explosion, what was there to explode?

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

I don't know if that is even possible.

As galaxys move, they do not all move in perfectly unaltered straight lines. Over billions of years they are affected by other galaxys as they travel, causing tangential shifts in their direction of movement.

The sheer number of galaxys and the math of their course altering effect on each other, I would think make it virtually impossible to calculate. To that we must add the birth and death of various stars and their systems and that effects the bottom line along with a myriad of other factors.

At one point after all known information has been fed into computers, what we would have is a best guess model that could be far from what happened.

Some time ago I attended a lecture on this very subject at the Adler Planetarium in Chicago and after a 2 hour presentation it was said that much of the necessary data to make more than an educated guess would never be known until such time that faster than light capability would become a reality.

thinksense

As I said, it is all guesswork based on so little real knowledge as to make the guesses ridiculous.

Enjoy the show but don't think you have even been given 1 millionth of any real knowledge.

pafret Loc: Northeast

You need to keep your theology separate from your statements about science. Inclusion of obvious error in part cause the whole to be rejected.

Docadhoc Loc: Elsewhere

I completely agree. Man, in his search for knowledge, tends at times to connect the dots even in the absence of dots.