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Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe

By Judson Berger
Published June 30, 2017
Democratic state officials already are refusing to cooperate with the voter fraud investigation ordered by President Trump, saying they will not hand over the extensive “voter roll data” the commission is seeking. 
The response comes after Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state serving as vice chair of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, wrote to all 50 states this week asking for their input as well as voter registration data.
“I have no intention of honoring this request. Virginia conducts fair, honest, and democratic elections, and there is no evidence of significant voter fraud in Virginia,” Virginia Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe countered in a statement Thursday, claiming the commission is based on the “specious and false notion that there was widespread voter fraud last November.”
In this Oct. 19, 2013, file photo, Hillary Clinton applauds Terry McAuliffe during a campaign rally in the Virginia gubernatorial race.  (AP)
Trump created the panel via executive order in May to review alleged voter fraud, after making the explosive claim that 3 million to 5 million people illegally voted in the 2016 presidential election. 
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In his letter, Kobach had asked for recommendations on how to improve election integrity and for guidance on which laws “hinder” that goal. But what rankled Democratic officials was his request for voter information including names, dates of birth, political party, the last four digits of Social Security numbers, voter history (“elections voted in”), felony convictions, military status and more.
Kobach specified in the letter he would only request “publicly-available voter roll data” under each state’s laws.
Connecticut Secretary of the State Denise Merrill said in a statement that her office would provide such information “in the spirit of transparency.” But, suggesting some of the requested data would not be sharable under state law, she said she would ensure “the privacy of voters is honored by withholding protected data.” Merrill also voiced concern that state officials “have not been told precisely what the Commission is looking for.”
Virginia and California were more brazen in their response. 
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McAuliffe, a former Democratic National Committee chairman and longtime Clinton family ally, said, “At best this commission was set up as a pretext to validate Donald Trump’s alternative election facts, and at worst is a tool to commit large-scale voter suppression.”
The governor declared he would not “divert resources” to this.
California Secretary of State Alex Padilla struck a similar chord, saying in a statement he would “not provide sensitive voter information to a commission that has already inaccurately passed judgment that millions of Californians voted illegally.”
He added, “California's participation would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.” 
Kobach told The Kansas City Star he's just looking for the "best data possible." 
He rejected as "nonsense" any claims that the data could be used to suppress the vote, saying, “The purpose of the commission is to quantify different forms of voter fraud and registration fraud and offer solutions. And so you have to have this data in order to do any meaningful research.”
Trump’s voter fraud claims and commission have been controversial from the start.
He originally called for a major investigation into voter fraud back in January, after telling congressional leaders that 3 million to 5 million people illegally voted in the November election.
Trump said the probe would focus on those registered to vote in two states, “those who are illegal” and registered voters who are actually dead.
The commission was not created until months later and was panned by critics as a vehicle to pursue his claim about millions voting illegally. Trump won the Electoral College vote, and with it the presidency, but lost the popular vote to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by about 3 million votes.
House Speaker Paul Ryan said back in January he had seen “no evidence” to back up Trump’s claim of millions of illegal votes. Trump has since said the issue mostly revolves around voter registration problems.
A 2012 Pew study indeed found evidence of outdated voter registration forms, though the author of that study tweeted earlier this year there is “zero evidence” of fraud.
There have been some documented cases of voter fraud, however, including cases Kobach has pursued in Kansas.
Kobach told Fox News' “Sunday Morning Futures” in May that the commission, chaired by Vice President Pence, would look beyond the 2016 election to cover voting irregularities and fraud and registration problems.
“We'll be gathering data from all 50 states and we'll be using the federal government's databases which can been very valuable,” he said at the time. 

Be very careful demos....The Fed Government controls voting requirements concerning General elections

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

If Trump were serious about discovering the truth about voter fraud, I might be incensed at such behavior - however - since the entire exercise is to try and prove that he in fact won the popular vote too.....................I couldn't give a rats ass. Nearly every Secretary of State in every State in the union, has already done the investigation, including every RED State.................and found little evidence of voter fraud, certainly ZERO evidence of rampant fraud, so.........................

MarvinSussman

The most important voter fraud is Jerry Mander! Millions more vote Demo than Repub nation-wide but it doesn't count!

bahmer

In the spirit of transparency then why not open each and every states registrations for voting and show the country that you are in fact correct and that you have nothing to fear and that all is above board. I know that in Chicago or Cook county that the dead have voted there for years ever since I was a little boy in fact, That was about 70 years ago.

markinny

need a federal VOTER I.D. card.it would sort out the general population. it would shake the bush and flush out the millions of illegals who voted.that is why several blue leaning states will not comply. proof!!

Gatsby

With political rhetoric:
“California's participation would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.”

Without political rhetoric:
“California's participation would only serve to legitimize the claims of massive voter fraud made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.”

Clearly, democrats have nothing to fear but the TRUTH.

gnie Loc: Gods Creation

It is their chance to prove the President wrong and yet they decline....we know why...transparancy is not the dems strong suit.....they will however have to comply once served with subpoenas, it is an investigation.

pafret Loc: Northeast

There is noi question our nation is awash in illegal aliens. Obnama appeared on Television advising an illegal alien woman that she need not fear being arrested if she goes to the polls. As the single individual responsible for the orderly conduct of our society, he should not have entertained a petition or complaint from an illegal alien about any potential arrests and he certainly should not have advised her it was safe to go vote.

It is time to get our head out of the sand and stop allowing politicians to decide such an important function. All voters, in national elections, should have a properly vetted Federal ID and suitable laws should be drawn to assure those ID's are retired at death. End these interminable equivocations and restore the one man one vote ideal.

If electronic or computer methods are used to tally votes, make altering, hacking or otherwise distorting the results a capital offense with a mandatory life sentence. If paper ballots are used then continuous surveillance can be maintained to prevent ballot box stuffing or altering votes.

Carol Kelly

Boo!

Carol Kelly

We must clean up the voter rolls in order to have free elections in the future. Illegals (what is it we can't understand) are illegal. They broke our laws. They should not have any say in our government. In fact, they should not be here living off us.

E

Why is it only Republicans who want an investigation into voter fraud and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want proof of citizenship to register to vote and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want picture I. D. to vote and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration lists scoured for illegal voters and only democrats who don't?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration records matched with death records and only democrats who don't?

cheers

bahmer

When they come up with some really valued arguments as to why they believe what they believe it will be a cold day in hell.

E

Why is it only Republicans who want an investigation into voter fraud BECAUSE IT HAPPENS and only democrats who don't BECAUSE IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN WITH DEMOCRATS?
Why is it only Republicans who want proof of citizenship to register to vote BECAUSE ILLEGALS ARE VOTING and only democrats who don't BECAUSE THE ILLEGALS VOTE DEMOCRAT?
Why is it only Republicans who want picture I. D. to vote BECAUSE WE HAVE A SERIOUS NEED TO VALIDATE WHO A PERSON SAYS HE IS and only democrats who don't BECAUSE ALL TO MANY PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR SOME ELSE OR A PHONY REGISTRATION AND THEY USUALLY VOTE DEMOCRAT?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration lists scoured for illegal voters BECAUSE GHOST VOTERS ARE ON THE REGISTRATION LISTS and only democrats who don't BECAUSE THEY GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND VOTE FOR THOSE THAT MOVED?
Why is it only Republicans who want registration records matched with death records TO PURGE THE LISTS OF PEOPLE WHO DIED and only democrats who don't BECAUSE THEY GET PEOPLE TO COME IN AND VOTE FOR THOSE THAT MOVED?

I live in Chicago and there was proof back in the sixties and seventies when Mayor Daley help steel the election for Kennedy. The same people are in charge now.

Now, what are you afraid of? That we might actually find that there is fraud around America. Yes, some if it might be Republican. But we need to find out how it happens and do our best to stop it so our elections are really valid.

It might be 10%, but I doubt it. 120,000,000 votes, 12,000,000. Not happening.
1%, now we are getting closer. 120,000,000 votes, 1,200,000. That is enough to swing elections all over.
.1 % and that is still to much. 120,000,000 votes, that is still 120,000 votes.

What are you afraid of finding out. That it exists and it did swing a few elections.