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Jun 26, 2017 13:02:13   #
Sandersnistra
 
Why not?

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Jun 26, 2017 13:17:07   #
vernon
 
Sandersnistra wrote:
Why not?



No way.When you put the preexisting conditions in you will break medicare just like it broke aca.Another aspect is that working people pay all their working lives into medicare and then still pay after retirement.now are you wanting to put people that don't pay anything in and it will be bankrupt
within 10 years.

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Jun 26, 2017 13:31:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
They'll never get that. People that want single payer never look at what the unfunded liability of Medicare is already. They bitch about profits. I totally get that because health insurers are snakes, but if profits are bad, going further and further into debt is worse.
vernon wrote:
No way.When you put the preexisting conditions in you will break medicare just like it broke aca.Another aspect is that working people pay all their working lives into medicare and then still pay after retirement.now are you wanting to put people that don't pay anything in and it will be bankrupt
within 10 years.

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Jun 26, 2017 13:33:17   #
PRM2014
 
vernon wrote:
No way.When you put the preexisting conditions in you will break medicare just like it broke aca.Another aspect is that working people pay all their working lives into medicare and then still pay after retirement.now are you wanting to put people that don't pay anything in and it will be bankrupt
within 10 years.


The truth told, medicare IS Already Bankrupt. They will just keep writing those worthless checks, and expect we the people to pay it all back.
The sorry politicians are all members of the DC SWAMP, and it must be drained immediately if not sooner.

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Jun 26, 2017 13:37:54   #
Sandersnistra
 
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in taxes and we have a 15$ to $20 live g wage Medicare for all will work ...just how it happens in Canada and Europe. When I was in Germany last year I needed medical help. Cost me about $50. I have cancer. ACA kept us from serious financial borderline bankruptcy. ACA needs fixing . We would have had Medicare for all of it hadn't been for some spineless Democrats. And of course it ended up being a half way measure instead. I currently pay $1035 per month for health insurance. PREMARA BLUE CROSS are just extortionist. That's one of many reasons we need so how payer as well

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Jun 26, 2017 13:44:31   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Nice talking points. All BS but nice. Hope your cancer goes into remission. The ruling class could pay all their wealth into taxes and it wouldn't make a dent. You are a typical liberal. Think we have a tax problem when we actually have a spending problem. Canada and Europe are starting to have real budget problems with their healthcare and people are starting to moan and groan over higher and higher taxes and longer and longer waiting times.
Sandersnistra wrote:
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in taxes and we have a 15$ to $20 live g wage Medicare for all will work ...just how it happens in Canada and Europe. When I was in Germany last year I needed medical help. Cost me about $50. I have cancer. ACA kept us from serious financial borderline bankruptcy. ACA needs fixing . We would have had Medicare for all of it hadn't been for some spineless Democrats. And of course it ended up being a half way measure instead. I currently pay $1035 per month for health insurance. PREMARA BLUE CROSS are just extortionist. That's one of many reasons we need so how payer as well
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in t... (show quote)

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Jun 26, 2017 13:49:18   #
vernon
 
PRM2014 wrote:
The truth told, medicare IS Already Bankrupt. They will just keep writing those worthless checks, and expect we the people to pay it all back.
The sorry politicians are all members of the DC SWAMP, and it must be drained immediately if not sooner.



If you check you'll find that OBAMA stole 750 billion from medicare to start aca and then another 250 billion a few months later.So if worthless

worthless checks are written it will rest completely 0n the low lifes in the demorat party.

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Jun 26, 2017 13:58:03   #
PRM2014
 
vernon wrote:
If you check you'll find that OBAMA stole 750 billion from medicare to start aca and then another 250 billion a few months later.So if worthless

worthless checks are written it will rest completely 0n the low lifes in the demorat party.



You are right on the money, I agree with your post. Obama the theft of all those billions.

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Jun 26, 2017 14:34:37   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
And what did you get for that $50? And what would be 'fair share' be?

Was stationed years ago where health care was free and taxes were out of sight, small example tax on any car or truck was 100% so that car you might buy at $25,000 was $50,000 after tax. Several years later that country declared bankruptcy, ran out of others people's money.


Sandersnistra wrote:
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in taxes and we have a 15$ to $20 live g wage Medicare for all will work ...just how it happens in Canada and Europe. When I was in Germany last year I needed medical help. Cost me about $50. I have cancer. ACA kept us from serious financial borderline bankruptcy. ACA needs fixing . We would have had Medicare for all of it hadn't been for some spineless Democrats. And of course it ended up being a half way measure instead. I currently pay $1035 per month for health insurance. PREMARA BLUE CROSS are just extortionist. That's one of many reasons we need so how payer as well
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in t... (show quote)

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Jun 26, 2017 14:35:47   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nice talking points. All BS but nice. Hope your cancer goes into remission. The ruling class could pay all their wealth into taxes and it wouldn't make a dent. You are a typical liberal. Think we have a tax problem when we actually have a spending problem. Canada and Europe are starting to have real budget problems with their healthcare and people are starting to moan and groan over higher and higher taxes and longer and longer waiting times.


J, you are so right but it has been explained over and over and over and the left still cannot seem to grasp the truth of the matter. It takes only a little math and some basic economics to figure out that you simply cannot get there by using the liberal "solutions". I really don't see any easy solution since the Dems, backed up by their accomplices in the press, keep pushing the impossible solution. It's almost as frustrating as trying to talk sense to the "warmists" in the global warming myth, the all-time biggest scam ever to be perpetrated upon the world.

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Jun 26, 2017 14:46:21   #
guitarman Loc: University Park, Florida
 
Sandersnistra wrote:
Why not?


Everyone should pay for the own health care. No citizen should have to pay the doctor, hospital and prescription cost for someone else. Keep the government out of it.

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Jun 26, 2017 14:54:41   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Sandersnistra wrote:
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in taxes and we have a 15$ to $20 live g wage Medicare for all will work ...just how it happens in Canada and Europe. When I was in Germany last year I needed medical help. Cost me about $50. I have cancer. ACA kept us from serious financial borderline bankruptcy. ACA needs fixing . We would have had Medicare for all of it hadn't been for some spineless Democrats. And of course it ended up being a half way measure instead. I currently pay $1035 per month for health insurance. PREMARA BLUE CROSS are just extortionist. That's one of many reasons we need so how payer as well
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in t... (show quote)


Don't you realize that you are paying for all of the people that do not want to work for a living. Who would have to pay something if they went to work. The leeches of this U. S. A.. It we had the government pay for everyone the government would run up more debt than the eye could see, just on health care. Where on earth would that help the middle class. They would just have to dig deeper in their pockets and then be short of money for food and other necessities.

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Jun 26, 2017 14:56:20   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
vernon wrote:
If you check you'll find that OBAMA stole 750 billion from medicare to start aca and then another 250 billion a few months later.So if worthless

worthless checks are written it will rest completely 0n the low lifes in the demorat party.


That is the truth but the liberals will never accept the truth.

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Jun 26, 2017 15:56:03   #
vernon
 
Sandersnistra wrote:
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in taxes and we have a 15$ to $20 live g wage Medicare for all will work ...just how it happens in Canada and Europe. When I was in Germany last year I needed medical help. Cost me about $50. I have cancer. ACA kept us from serious financial borderline bankruptcy. ACA needs fixing . We would have had Medicare for all of it hadn't been for some spineless Democrats. And of course it ended up being a half way measure instead. I currently pay $1035 per month for health insurance. PREMARA BLUE CROSS are just extortionist. That's one of many reasons we need so how payer as well
When the ruling class/1% pay their fair share in t... (show quote)



No you just want something free and their ain't no free ride.what is so bad about someone just like you having more than you if he earned it.

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Jun 27, 2017 05:25:03   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nice talking points. All BS but nice. Hope your cancer goes into remission. The ruling class could pay all their wealth into taxes and it wouldn't make a dent. You are a typical liberal. Think we have a tax problem when we actually have a spending problem. Canada and Europe are starting to have real budget problems with their healthcare and people are starting to moan and groan over higher and higher taxes and longer and longer waiting times.

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Where did you gain your info? Your opinion does not make a fact. FACTS please.

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