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Michigan man gets $128 ticket for warming car in driveway

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2017/01/michigan_man_gets_128_ticket_f.html

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I agree with the ticket being written....the unattended vehicle was a risk to the general public, theft, children taking it for a joyride...etc, etc, etc.

The car was already heated up since he drove to his girlfriends house....that keeping it warmed up is pretty lame for an excuse

Shut the vehicle off, take keys with you....problem solved, using nothing more than common sense......you're welcome.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Im surprised he didn't charge for polluting the air too...
Yes, stupid it was and does pose eminent danger however from what is said it's not against the law to leave a vehicle running..And unfortunately stupidity is not a chargeable offense either... lolol 🙃😮

The judge will have to dismiss it especially when the cite code the officer used is wrong ...

Geeezzzz what a policed environment we are coming to...

sum

Why not just put Americans in prison when they're born?

pafret Loc: Northeast

That seems to be the way we are going because there is absolutely no limit on police abuse, of people, because of things they don't like. In this case they postulated a theft and an imaginary high speed chase with possible multiple injuries but in reality no such theft or chase occurred. It was simply an excuse to force this man to get a lawyer and incur costs and forcibly change his behavior to one the police found acceptable. It should be a requirement that there be mandatory retraining for police officers who arrest and cite non-existent laws because they are ignorant of the laws they are to enforce.

Consider all of the states with confiscation laws, which permit police to seize property before it is proven that a crime was committed. There are numerous cases where people have never gotten their money and property back after being acquitted with no redress. The police have been empowered to become highway robbers and they revel in doing exactly that.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Certain ones....why not just follow the law?? Works well for me.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Well LJ, it is a ticket to leave an unnatended vehicle running, or the keys in the ignition. ...it is here as in many places, doubly so within a certain distance of a prison, state jail or an asylum for the mentally disturbed for good reason.......it's just not enforced as much as it should be, why people are surprised when they get smacked with a ticket.

Good Times!!

sum

Follow the law? Obeying the law is difficult when everything is illegal.

How can you say that you live in a free country when license plate covers, dog sales, plywood, passing garbage trucks, horse meat, boating while drinking, ticket bots, riding horses, car sales, shooting ranges, trans fat, hedgehogs, leaning bikes on trees, fake service dogs, hookah lounges, clowns, holding hands, hollow logs, interracial marriage, hitching posts, cheetahs, pinball, pesticides, powder caffeine, feeding deer, potlucks, glue, mobile homes, snow brushing, fixing tractors, sharing passwords, visiting banned websites, fortune-telling, declawing, air taxis, Kratom, seed libraries, dwarf tossing, cemetery picnics, selling hair, drunk surfing, being annoying, golf carts, street parking, parking backwards, lawn parking, paved yards, masks, powdered alcohol, spitting, unlicensed bicycling, deer scents, pitbulls, speed trap warnings, aluminum bottles, stun guns, drinking, cursing, body odor, RV's, cigarettes, hate speech, texting while walking, dirty cars, monkeys, boating without life jackets, feeding homeless, tiger selfies, shoveling snow, not mowing, food in trash, not wearing helmets, watering lawns, not watering lawns, caged chickens, fois gras, curfews, microbeads, recording police, sleeping in cars, secret compartments, fireworks, leash free dogs, unlicensed dogs, jaywalking, sex without a contract, porn condoms, ginseng harvesting, baggy pants, subway gymnasts, styrofoam, smoking, sodas, cellphones while driving, washing car in driveways, astroturf, tiny homes, plastic bags, alcohol, Airbnb, Uber, nudity, gardens, signs, toy guns, transporting illegals, ballot pictures, Tesla, sledding, gambling, prostitution, driving without insurance, radar detectors, kill switches, no seatbelts, garage sales, sitting on milk crates, circuses, protesting, self-serve gas, sex toys, calling 311, hitch-hiking, warming cars, eating while driving, structuring, electronics recycling, fences, alcohol contents, dancing, camping, fires, bottled water, feeding strays, electric bikes, loitering, repair cars on street, menus without calories, unlicensed dogs, possession, ATV's, manspreading, science, skateboards, dogs in trucks, knives, brass knuckles, not having health insurance, dirt bikes, go carts, outdoor sleeping, panhandling, blocking sidewalks, drugs, ammunition, ferrets, failing to report worldwide assets, foreign bank accounts, net cafes, slow driving, sex, flags, failing to register as sex offender, cohabitation, no vaccination, cupcakes, flashing headlights, working too early, fireplaces, failing to declare cash, recording farms, fast food, rent control, tinted windows, minimum wage, failing to carry ID, adultery, cutting down trees, volunteers, collecting rain, decorations, importing cars, hammocks, labels, discounts, pet burials, basketball hoops, wading pools, satellite dishes, BBQ, playing in street, hoverboards, switchblades, biking on sidewalk, sidewalk sitting, flying lanterns, donation bins, salt, pigs, and martial arts are all against the law?

http://libertarian.forumbuild.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13&start=0

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I do agree with your last part concerning confiscation. ...that innocent untill proven guilty thing does not prevent that...or the tons of money one needs needs to spend proving innocence......I'm not talking about the loophole release of the guilty because some T was not crossed....but the truly innocent in these cases really get the state of Fed shaft.

sum

No victim. No crime.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Move.....i don't seem to have those issues here.......by your standards, i guess rape and robbery shouldn't be against the law either......grow up and quit whining, or fix where you live.

sum

WTF? Who said robbery should be legal?

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

You whine about other common sense laws in place in certain areas...so why not robbery? You ever stop to think why these things are not allowed in certain areas? Because of dumbass abuse and the situations they created being stupid causing them to be banned........why have conservation laws? Because some dumbass will kill every deer, moose, rabbit..etc,etc..the rivers and oceans would have no fish.......quit whining, move to where you can have what you deisre...you want a lwntern kite? Move to where it's not a fire risk, you want a pit bull?. ...live where they are.not a risk to suburban life.....there's your freeeom skippy....use it or quit snivveling.....you have a choice...now don't you?

I could go on and on with your list of crap complaints.....if you were worth the time that is.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

I smell Norte....can't be two that snivel like this on the globe.

sum

It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.