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May 18, 2017 18:17:45   #
Tomtrout
 
This is another uninformed move by the Democrats. Now it is impossible to begin impeachment hearings while under investigation by the special counselor. Congress just shot off their off their own foot. Mueller must find and provide verifiable evidence to the grand jury. The majority of the grand jury must agree that there has been a crime committed before impeachment can even be considered. Congress can not even ask to subpoena documents or evidence because it is under investigation of the special counsel. Providing false evidence to influence the investigation is a criminal offense. Mueller is not restricted to investigate only Trump and Russia but has the scope to investigate any and ALL misdeeds discovered during the investigation. How much time will be required to finally end the investigation? In the meanwhile Democrats should be careful what they say else they may be charged with obstruction of justice.
 
May 18, 2017 18:46:11   #
Ricko
 
Tomtrout wrote:
This is another uninformed move by the Democrats. Now it is impossible to begin impeachment hearings while under investigation by the special counselor. Congress just shot off their off their own foot. Mueller must find and provide verifiable evidence to the grand jury. The majority of the grand jury must agree that there has been a crime committed before impeachment can even be considered. Congress can not even ask to subpoena documents or evidence because it is under investigation of the special counsel. Providing false evidence to influence the investigation is a criminal offense. Mueller is not restricted to investigate only Trump and Russia but has the scope to investigate any and ALL misdeeds discovered during the investigation. How much time will be required to finally end the investigation? In the meanwhile Democrats should be careful what they say else they may be charged with obstruction of justice.
This is another uninformed move by the Democrats. ... (show quote)


Tom-put it to bed-there will not be any impeachment nor will there be obstruction of justice charges against Trump. However, If I were, Hillary, Susan Rice, Lois Lerner, I might start worrying about now. The Trump/Russia collusion does not exist, but all of those other misdeeds are on the table and each need to be pursued. Since the democrats clamored for a Special Prosecutor we need to keep him busy investigating the real crimes as opposed to chasing Ivan all over Siberia. America First !!!
May 18, 2017 18:50:21   #
Nutter
 
So what are the impeachable offenses?
There aren't any!!
May 18, 2017 19:36:41   #
moldyoldy (a regular here)
 
There was plenty of collusion between trumps team and Russians. I doubt if they let trump in on it because he can't keep his mouth shut. But he did know Flynn was being investigated when he hired him.
May 18, 2017 19:38:41   #
Mr Bombastic
 
moldyoldy wrote:
There was plenty of collusion between trumps team and Russians. I doubt if they let trump in on it because he can't keep his mouth shut. But he did know Flynn was being investigated when he hired him.

Where is your evidence? Oh, that's right. There isn't any.
May 18, 2017 19:47:41   #
moldyoldy (a regular here)
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Where is your evidence? Oh, that's right. There isn't any.


What are they hiding?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/18/report-trump-campaign-had-18-undisclosed-contacts-with-russians
 
May 18, 2017 19:54:11   #
Mr Bombastic
 


From the article you posted: "Those with knowledge of the contacts, who described them to Reuters, said there was not yet any evidence of collusion or wrongdoing in the records." You lose...again.
May 18, 2017 20:04:05   #
Gatsby
 
Not unless playing the MSM for the chumps they are is an impeachable offense.

It seems that while the president has been busy on foreign policy, he sent the MSM off on one wild goose chase after an-other.

Pehaps the place to start this investigation is with the DNC server that was hacked.
Nutter wrote:
So what are the impeachable offenses?
There aren't any!!
May 18, 2017 20:11:00   #
moldyoldy (a regular here)
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
From the article you posted: "Those with knowledge of the contacts, who described them to Reuters, said there was not yet any evidence of collusion or wrongdoing in the records." You lose...again.


The investigation is just getting started
May 18, 2017 20:48:03   #
Nutter
 
I thought the investigated started a year ago and still there is nothing!!
May 18, 2017 21:50:10   #
moldyoldy (a regular here)
 
Nutter wrote:
I thought the investigated started a year ago and still there is nothing!!


The GOP led investigations were a sham
 
May 18, 2017 23:27:43   #
Tomtrout
 
ALL congressional hearings and investigations are a waste of time and money since they really have no bite since they cannot convene a grand jury investigation only the attorney general. The benefit is that their face and name are on TV and they can glean sound bites for the next election. The only investigative body that has much impact is Judicial Watch since they can go to a federal judge a get subpoenas for information under FOIA. Even the most corrupt judge would not dare to deny a FOIA request. The intelligence corps and the Department of State can cover up anything they want by calling the information classified. However POTUS can grant special access. This is why they are so fearful of Trump. He don't play games.
May 18, 2017 23:29:57   #
moldyoldy (a regular here)
 
Tomtrout wrote:
ALL congressional hearings and investigations are a waste of time and money since they really have no bite since they cannot convene a grand jury investigation only the attorney general. The benefit is that their face and name are on TV and they can glean sound bites for the next election. The only investigative body that has much impact is Judicial Watch since they can go to a federal judge a get subpoenas for information under FOIA. Even the most corrupt judge would not dare to deny a FOIA request. The intelligence corps and the Department of State can cover up anything they want by calling the information classified. However POTUS can grant special access. This is why they are so fearful of Trump. He don't play games.
ALL congressional hearings and investigations are ... (show quote)


JW does not investigate the right wing
May 19, 2017 02:56:10   #
Pastor Jade
 
Tell me who cannot see that this Russian collusion story that the liberal leftist Democrats keep reasserting, knowing it is a falsehood, is being used by them to distract attention away from the real issues and crimes. We say we are not fooled by them but we're still chasing our tails around and around trying to disprove what has already been disproved.
There is the belief that if one tells a lie long enough and loud enough that some will be dumb enough to begin believing it to the point that they will take up the cry and perpetuate it as well. I believe that that is where we are now.
We voted Trump in. Now lets "vote" these dumb asses out along with their lies and corruption. And if we can't vote then send letters, emails, twitters, etc., to those who represent our vote and tell them that their job rides on whether or not they represent us like they promised they would when they were voted into office. See, that's what's called a peaceful revolution. And I say it's time we revolt.
May 19, 2017 08:37:34   #
samtheyank (a regular here)
 
Tomtrout wrote:
ALL congressional hearings and investigations are a waste of time and money since they really have no bite since they cannot convene a grand jury investigation only the attorney general. The benefit is that their face and name are on TV and they can glean sound bites for the next election. The only investigative body that has much impact is Judicial Watch since they can go to a federal judge a get subpoenas for information under FOIA. Even the most corrupt judge would not dare to deny a FOIA request. The intelligence corps and the Department of State can cover up anything they want by calling the information classified. However POTUS can grant special access. This is why they are so fearful of Trump. He don't play games.
ALL congressional hearings and investigations are ... (show quote)


He doesn't play games.
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