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May 19, 2017 18:05:38   #
Mr Bombastic
 
Nickolai wrote:
Having no faith in superstition doesn't require an explanation And I'm not worried one whit about standing before anybody but my own conscience. The Jesus story in the conflicting gospels are based on our local star the Sun and its yearly (ministry) travels from its death on Dec. 22 the winter solstice It's rebirth on the 25th and is cycle through the constellations of the Zodiac. The Vernal Equinox (Easter) the summer solstice the vernal autumnal (fall) and its death again on Dec 22 in a never ending cycle so the original story was age old sun (son) worship
Having no faith in superstition doesn't require an... (show quote)


Thanks for posting again. It reminded me that I forgot to block you after I reported your posting of pornographic material. I've corrected that error. You are just plain evil.

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May 19, 2017 20:30:07   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Nickolai wrote:
I agree that Christians are charitable and giving But it comes with a caveat a sandwich in one hand and a bible in the other. Both of the spinoffs of Judism Christianity and Islam are the most expansionary religions on earth and is the reason they are so big. Who says Athiest and Agnostics aren't as charitable. I don't know much abut Islam and charitable giving. But Christians are expected to give 10 % of their incomes to their church and that is what constitutes their giving. Another factor in religion is an inordinate obsession with sex and sexual matters and male domination. I have no free will ??? That's a laugh. At the age of 11 My 9 year old sister and I were staying with our Maternal grand mother when an itinerant Evangelist came to town and put on a revival on a Wednesday evening at the local Pentecostal church. The preacher began speaking softly then picked up the intensity until we were threatened with hell fire and brimstone for eternity if we didn't have faith in the vengeful God. Ah but---- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Then he swept his hand across the congregation and in a quavering voice he made the call for Christ saying " The spirit move's among you " The place went bananas. People leapt out of their seats punching the air and shouting praise the lord and halleluja Two men that I believe were two of our Grand ma's nephews leaned forward and began whispering in our ear to open up our hearts to Jesus and surrender to the lord. I thought I'm only 11 --I don't want to surrender to any body but my dad. Then I saw a kid about my age in front of the podium with tears streaming down his face and about five guys jumping up and down shouting, and these two guys wouldn't leave my sis and I alone so I got up and headed for the bench to escape these two guys and see what that kid was crying about. My sis hjumped up and followed, she didn't want to be left behind. We knelt at the bench and put our heads down but There wasn't anything to cry about. After a while the crowd began quieting down, falling back in their seats, tongues hanging out panting for breath. The congregation had had had a religious orgasm. 40 years later my sister was killed in a private plane crash and one day I realized that in all of the 40 years we had never discussed what had happened to us in that church that night. In retrospect to me it was child abuse plain and simply. Two years later the same thing happened In a Church of the Nazarene . I was 13 years old And I've never been in another church for the purpose of being preached too. Only for wedding's and funerals, When I discovered science it was an epiphany a great sense of freedom from the yoke of superstition. And you want to talk free will. Religion enslaves human beings to the perpetuation of ignorance and superstition
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"And you want to talk free will. Religion enslaves human beings to the perpetuation of ignorance and superstition"

No, that would be the Democrat Party you are talking about. You know, the exact same party that just murdered one of their own for leaking their dirty little secrets and lies to Wiki!

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May 20, 2017 13:37:06   #
LiberalLulu
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I don't have to. They've done that all by themselves. I can only try to give them the truth. They will come to the realization that Jesus Christ is Lord, one day. For many of them it will be too late.


I wonder if they will ever assume responsibility for the consequences of their idiotology and actions. (Have you seen my thread: "Playing Bloods and Crips"? http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-102563-1.html)?

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May 20, 2017 13:37:48   #
LiberalLulu
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
Thanks for posting again. It reminded me that I forgot to block you after I reported your posting of pornographic material. I've corrected that error. You are just plain evil.


He's not inherently evil, Mr. B. It's his religion.

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May 20, 2017 14:25:56   #
Mr Bombastic
 
LiberalLulu wrote:
He's not inherently evil, Mr. B. It's his religion.


He's evil. Don't be fooled. Not Hitler/Stalin/Mao evil, but his lifestyle is a rejection of God. That makes him evil, as well as unrepentant. And after that disgusting, pornographic cartoon he posted, how can you say he is not evil?

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May 20, 2017 14:44:51   #
LiberalLulu
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
He's evil. Don't be fooled. Not Hitler/Stalin/Mao evil, but his lifestyle is a rejection of God. That makes him evil, as well as unrepentant. And after that disgusting, pornographic cartoon he posted, how can you say he is not evil?


Missed the cartoon. Where is it?

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May 20, 2017 14:49:42   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
If I were the Devil, I would convince Christians that there is no sense in fighting my emissaries, or at least let George do it.

Mr Bombastic wrote:
If I was the Devil, you know what I'd do? I'd not only try to convince people that there is no God but also convince them that I don't exist. I would do this by any means available. Get them young enough and you can convince them of anything. I would teach children in Kindergarten about sex and homosexuality. I would teach those in elementary school about Islam. When they get to high school I would fill their minds with the theory of evolution. Once they get to college I would complete their education by making them good little Marxists. A few manage to escape, but no worries. Most of them stay. Their destruction so easy. They believe that they are masters of their own fate, but they are mine. They argue with my own voice, my own words, and they don't even know it. The poor fools. I pull their strings and they dance like good little puppets.

Yep. If I was the Devil, that is exactly what I'd do. So my question to you is this. Why don't you believe in God? Is it because you actually took a good look at the evidence and rejected it? Or is it what you've been told all your life? Perhaps it's time to re-evaluate what you believe.
If I was the Devil, you know what I'd do? I'd not ... (show quote)

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May 20, 2017 14:51:07   #
Mr Bombastic
 
LiberalLulu wrote:
Missed the cartoon. Where is it?


It's on this thread, somewhere. It is, quite possibly, the most disgusting thing I've seen on this site. I've asked admin to take it down, twice! Still no reply. Perhaps you can ask them too?

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May 20, 2017 14:51:31   #
LiberalLulu
 
eagleye13 wrote:
If I were the Devil, I would convince Christians that there is no sense in fighting my emissaries, or at least let George do it.


You mean St. George and the Dragon?

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May 20, 2017 14:53:28   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
LiberalLulu wrote:
You mean St. George and the Dragon?


Is that a joke?
How about the cherry tree chopper?
are you old enough to remember that folk tale taught many moons ago.

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May 20, 2017 14:54:34   #
LiberalLulu
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
I believe that there is but a single reason that people reject God. Pride. They refuse to humble themselves before God and repent. That's what it all boils down to. The sin of pride.


Excessive pride---arrogance. The Quran says the only sin God doesn't forgive is that of the man who puts himself above God. THAT kind of pride.

Pride of accomplishment is a good sort of pride: the pleasure one has when he does for himself.

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May 20, 2017 15:02:54   #
LiberalLulu
 
thinksense wrote:
You keep talking about "free will". Could anyone here explain what that means, please?

As I see it, you don't have any more free will than any other robot or Pavlov's dogs.

From the moment you are born you must follow a distinct path set for you by others.

Your parents start teaching you what they want you to know and do.

They were taught by their parents, who were taught by theirs, etc. who ultimately were taught by those who controlled your tribe in the distant past.

You speak in a code (language of your tribe).

You eat the foods that are common to your tribe.

You wear the clothing of your tribe. And change it's style when salesmen/con men in your tribe dictate a change.

With your mothers urging you are brainwashed to adhere to some tribal mysticism (religion), (whatever of the thousands of religions she has been brainwashed in) and taught that religion by the con men running that sect. As the Pope is quoted, "Give me a child for it's first 6 years and I will give you a Catholic for life".) You must know that the higher ups in that religion don't really believe it, don't you.

Ever watch a Catholic self hypnotize herself using her Rosary Beads and repeating the same litany over and over?

No most of you do not have free will by any means, as long as someone else controls what you think and do.


BTW, only a really stupid being would not realize that there is a Universal Intelligence that created and maintains the universe and everything that is in it. Give it whatever name you wish. But I doubt that you or me personally is of any real interest to it. And I doubt that it has such low self esteem that it would want us to worship it.

You are brainwashed with your country's political religion, (yes politics is another Pavlovian brianwashing).

You are lied to, hypnotized and victimized by similar procedures regardless of where you live.

Most of you have very little if any free will. Sorry about that.
You keep talking about "free will". Coul... (show quote)


Sorry, nonsense. Humans do have free will. You do have a choice. Denying that denies your responsibility for anything that occurs in your life. And denying responsibility affirms your notion that effects do not have causes, and consequences do not follow actions.

Have you not read my (under the name CarolSeer2016) topics on what makes humans different from animals? The gift of foresight, the sense of the about-to-be? How that very trait catalyzes the necessity for choice?

And it is this gift, this sense of the about-to-be, that enables choice, and that allows humans to learn from the past. Man HAS the ability to "properly assess past and present and explicate/implicate their consequences for the future". And if you "choose" to ignore that, you also "choose" a (possible) unviable future.

Humans are not robots, nor are they animals.

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May 20, 2017 15:08:51   #
LiberalLulu
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Is that a joke?
How about the cherry tree chopper?
are you old enough to remember that folk tale taught many moons ago.


Well, who are you talking about, George?

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May 20, 2017 15:10:22   #
LiberalLulu
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Because God is a belief,,, not a science,,,,,, the metaphysical,,, does exist,,, everyone seems to agree,,, because the universal idea that "there must be something more.." is a part of almost every society ever known,,,,,,,

There are other philosphies,,,, Budha, DAOism, Shinto, The Lama,,, "man Above" "wakantanka" but like my wasicu-wakan (medicine man) says,,, "call him whatever you like,, He knows who he is."


Having tried a humanistic view,,, I can say the christian lifestyle is better and more conducive to civilization,,, The Cheyenne had a religion,,, but it was "tribal",,,,, and "tribalism" is not civil,,,,,,, I understood that even better when I went to war against the taliban,,, who are tribal,,,, that had an amazing influence on how I looked at the tribe,,, our actions, our stories, and our place in society now.........
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I'm pretty sure tribalism is a stage in cultural development. Doing some research. Don't think anyone has done any yet, though.

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May 20, 2017 15:12:27   #
LiberalLulu
 
Mr Bombastic wrote:
LOL! The insult is you posting that BS about 92 percent of the population not being able to think. Pure BS. And I suppose YOU are one of the few who CAN think? LOL! No insult intended? Yeah. Right. And just to clue you in, I as well as many other Christians have had doubts in the past. It's only natural. I question my faith all the time. Well, 'question' is not the right word. I'll use what the Bible says. I believe it was the Apostle Paul who told Christians to test the Scriptures. I have done that over and over again. Because I'm a thinker. It only reinforces my faith. I go to atheists websites and read what they say, then I set out to disprove it. It's not hard to do. I believe in God because of the evidence. And then you get on here and tell us Christians are deluded. No insult intended? Give me a break!!
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He's seems to be trying to prove to the rest of us that Marxism works: (The Liberals' Creed, remember?). 10% of the population has to take care of the remaining 90%.

Thanks for reinforcing our beliefs about Leftist/Liberal/Democratic idiocy.

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