ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps

Continued from what is a militia? thread

In the above thread (click on the link to review) we discussed the opinion of our founding fathers on the need for a citizen militia. (Yes! liberals deny their words and would define a militia to their viewpoint)

The next thing they argue against the second amendment are the words "Well Regulated"

The argument goes something like this.

“You want to listen to the last part of the Second Amendment where is says ‘shall not be infringed,’ but you ignore the part where it says you have to be a ‘well-regulated militia.'”

Invariably, they argue that “well-regulated” means “subject to extensive government regulations.”

But what does “well-regulated really mean?

The phrase “well-regulated” was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected (Consider a watch or a sailing ship) . Establishing government oversight of the people’s arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Therefore; I contend, it is quite clear that the Founders used the phrase “well-regulated” to denote that militia forces should be skilled with arms of contemporary military utility and relevant military tactics, so that they can serve in the defense of Republic against both foreign invaders and the threat of domestic tyrants commanding a national army against the liberty of the citizenry. This alone explains why the little despotic liberals living among us so despise and wish to do away with the 2nd amendment.

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bggamers Loc: georgia

well stated and as my sons say one of the reasons no other country has tried to over take us because we the people would be able to kick some serious butts if they got past our military

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

And therein lies the main reason Hitler never invaded Switzerland and Hirohito never invaded the US. "A rifle behind every blade of grass".

bggamers Loc: georgia

okie don

www.3percent.org
Check it out 'Patriots'(:

bggamers Loc: georgia

Sounds interesting but I do not do face book. I feel people put out to much info on it and face book does give this info to the goverment.I don't have anything to hide just paranoid I guess

okie don

Well, bg, I don't either. Wife does tho.
May be able to find out a bit about the 60,000 American movement { from what I've heard} thru her?

bggamers Loc: georgia

let me know what you find out and ask her to find out if there is another way beside face book

bggamers Loc: georgia

Tried their web site and their contact us but it will not take my email or let me go to any other site unless a member. but if face book and twitter are the only ways to contact they are letting go of a whole bunch of others who would be interested

badbob85037

You want to see the Libtard Militia? Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywFbSdMVx0 After that check out their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PhxJBGC/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE and make sure you leave a comment as no comments are allowed on their youtube video page. The group is in the same city as I live and before today I had never heard of them. They call them self the Lib Militia, Phoenix, John Brown Gun Club. I promise it will leave you ROTFLYAO.It will also explain why we don't see a lot of Libtard Militias, because of self inflected gun shoot wounds lead to their extinction.

bggamers Loc: georgia

Thats the problem I dont do face book or twitter we were saying they are missing others who would be interested but are not able to contact. Me I'm to old but they do have a lot of good information

badbob85037

You still can go to the page and watch their videos as their protest of ICE deporting illegal women back to Mexico. Ya got to be a Liberals Liberal to support the illegal women but not the men. You might even see my comment If not allow me:

Phoenix John Brown Gun Club AKA the lib militia

Wow I watched a few of your videos and your group of libtards, now I know why you acted like a bunch of brain dead corn holes around guns. Cause you act like brain dead corn holes all the time. THANK YOU for being the enemy cause if ya got to have an enemy what better enemy than one as near sighted and even way to stupid to know you will never be ignorant.

Now do your Progressive 'cry me a river' low life Democrat thing and turn me in to facebook for hurting your feelings and making your nose drip. First grab a tissue or a roll of butt wipe and dry your snot an be thankful you didn't soil your self. Then call your good buddies at facebook and that's with two R's

L8erToots

I also live in Phoenix and only heard of them today - saw a link on FB to their target practice video on YouTube and have to agree with your assessment (once I stopped ROTFLMAO). Yep, I saw a lot of dirt flying, that's for sure (and I'll bet those champions of the environment didn't pick up all their brass after, either). If everything goes to shit, it's good to see my kids and I won't have any problem fighting off the enemy - hell, like you said, they'd probably do themselves in first and save us the ammo

bggamers Loc: georgia

I am not a lib and what I want is what trump is trying to do send back the illegals with serious rap sheets that they just let go(murder/sex with children/robbery ect) yet these sancuary cities just put them back on the street it just blows my mind. They wont let anyone vet these people coming from other country's and some cannt be veted but they don't care even though their crime rates are through the roof why their people elect these idiots who could care less if their murdered in bed is unbelievable.These rioters in my opinion are to be concidered domestic terrorist and should be treated as such you dont like the American flag you feel threaten by it leave this is our country our flag we shouldn't have to change for anyone

L8erToots

From what I've read, I agree. In the debates the Founders talked about how it would be financially impossible for the government to formally provide and train every citizen in the use of arms, so it was imperative that the citizens right to own arms and their right to practice using those arms should not be infringed upon in any way. There was also much debate on who should be in control of the militia once the citizens were called upon to form one, and it was NOT the federal government - the commanding officers were to be local citizens, decided upon by other local citizens and local government, so that their loyalty was NOT to the federal government, but the state. If anything, they felt that when it came to a militia, the federal govt should provide the heavy artillery, but absolutely nothing else that could be used to instill or force loyality to the federal govt. The Founders were against a federal standing army and were very clear in their desire for all the citizens in every state be able to form an army that could fight against their governments standing army.