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Apr 21, 2017 21:59:00   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
susanblange wrote:
Absolutely not. There is a verse in Ezekiel that applies to all three of the Abrahamic faiths. It says "Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life". Ezekiel 13:22. Both the wicked and the righteous come in all races, creeds, and colors. The wicked go to Hell, and the righteous go to Heaven. It does not matter what your religious beliefs are.
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So are you saying..it doesn't matter which GOD or god's you worship ..just as long as you're a good person...you go to Heaven?
A thought comes to mind of...then why do you call Christianity a false Religion?

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Apr 22, 2017 10:39:50   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
byronglimish wrote:
So are you saying..it doesn't matter which GOD or god's you worship ..just as long as you're a good person...you go to Heaven?
A thought comes to mind of...then why do you call Christianity a false Religion?


Christianity is not a false religion, but it is predicated on a lie. Jesus did not rise from the dead, if he had, he would be here. I do not believe Jesus was the Messiah or the son of God. The NT is the doctrine of Satan. Job 31:35 "...behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book". Satan means "adversary". Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. God appeared to Moses for forty days and nights, in a mount and while fasting, and commissioned him. Exodus 34:28. Satan appeared to Jesus also for forty days and nights, in a mount and while fasting and commissioned him. Jesus was offered the world if he would serve Satan. Jesus came out of that experience preaching the Kingdom of God, which has yet to materialize. He took the offer. Jesus is Lucifer, which means "morning star". That was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16.

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Apr 22, 2017 14:37:16   #
samtheyank
 
susanblange wrote:
Christianity is not a false religion, but it is predicated on a lie. Jesus did not rise from the dead, if he had, he would be here. I do not believe Jesus was the Messiah or the son of God. The NT is the doctrine of Satan. Job 31:35 "...behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book". Satan means "adversary". Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. God appeared to Moses for forty days and nights, in a mount and while fasting, and commissioned him. Exodus 34:28. Satan appeared to Jesus also for forty days and nights, in a mount and while fasting and commissioned him. Jesus was offered the world if he would serve Satan. Jesus came out of that experience preaching the Kingdom of God, which has yet to materialize. He took the offer. Jesus is Lucifer, which means "morning star". That was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16.
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Susan,

If Jesus did not rise from the grave, I, and untold millions and millions of others, are in deep do do. Our faith means nothing and we can live anyway we want to as people. We are also lost for eternity. This is where it ends when we are no longer are alive as a human being.

Food for thought! We all know that once you die that is it and your body begins to rot and returns to the ground. If this had happened with Jesus, he would have never been viewed as the Resurrection. He would have simply been remembered as a nice guy who taught a nice philosophy of Brotherhood. You can't perpetrate a lie like that for two thousand years. Something unique had to have happened to burn that belief in men's hearts. If Christ was not who he said he was, he would have been remembered for a short period of time and his name would be a footnote in some theology book for an interesting discussion in a classroom on a Wednesday afternoon. There have been tough men and women who were brilliant and you would never think who would accept such a strange far out claim that a dead man came back to life in three days. It violates everything we know in the real world as human beings. It is a pretty big lump to have to swallow and it goes against everything you know to be true as a person. If God can create a big universe like we see every night before we go to bed, why can't He do something like raise His Son from the grave? He did it and the world has never been the same. Susan that is why you are fighting and struggling with this very concept. There is something to it and it is very unique. You have the right to believe what you want to believe about Jesus. I hope one day it is settled in your heart. I will not say anymore.

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Apr 22, 2017 14:43:52   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
susanblange wrote:
Christianity is not a false religion, but it is predicated on a lie. Jesus did not rise from the dead, if he had, he would be here. I do not believe Jesus was the Messiah or the son of God. The NT is the doctrine of Satan. Job 31:35 "...behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book". Satan means "adversary". Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. God appeared to Moses for forty days and nights, in a mount and while fasting, and commissioned him. Exodus 34:28. Satan appeared to Jesus also for forty days and nights, in a mount and while fasting and commissioned him. Jesus was offered the world if he would serve Satan. Jesus came out of that experience preaching the Kingdom of God, which has yet to materialize. He took the offer. Jesus is Lucifer, which means "morning star". That was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16.
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In what bizarre universe did you get this drivel?

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Apr 22, 2017 17:18:06   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
samtheyank wrote:
Susan,

If Jesus did not rise from the grave, I, and untold millions and millions of others, are in deep do do. Our faith means nothing and we can live anyway we want to as people. We are also lost for eternity. This is where it ends when we are no longer are alive as a human being.

Food for thought! We all know that once you die that is it and your body begins to rot and returns to the ground. If this had happened with Jesus, he would have never been viewed as the Resurrection. He would have simply been remembered as a nice guy who taught a nice philosophy of Brotherhood. You can't perpetrate a lie like that for two thousand years. Something unique had to have happened to burn that belief in men's hearts. If Christ was not who he said he was, he would have been remembered for a short period of time and his name would be a footnote in some theology book for an interesting discussion in a classroom on a Wednesday afternoon. There have been tough men and women who were brilliant and you would never think who would accept such a strange far out claim that a dead man came back to life in three days. It violates everything we know in the real world as human beings. It is a pretty big lump to have to swallow and it goes against everything you know to be true as a person. If God can create a big universe like we see every night before we go to bed, why can't He do something like raise His Son from the grave? He did it and the world has never been the same. Susan that is why you are fighting and struggling with this very concept. There is something to it and it is very unique. You have the right to believe what you want to believe about Jesus. I hope one day it is settled in your heart. I will not say anymore.
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When the true Messiah comes, he will be executed by Christians and will also be made a lamb for a sin offering. Isaiah 53:7 "...he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter..." Isaiah 53:10 "...when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin..." Daniel 7:11 "...I beheld even until the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame". According to sacrificial law, this offering must be female. Leviticus 4:32 "And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish". Malachi 1:14 "But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing..." Christians say Jesus was a Passover lamb. If this is true, there is no atonement and Christians are yet in their sin. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie.

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Apr 22, 2017 19:54:10   #
samtheyank
 
susanblange wrote:
When the true Messiah comes, he will be executed by Christians and will also be made a lamb for a sin offering. Isaiah 53:7 "...he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter..." Isaiah 53:10 "...when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin..." Daniel 7:11 "...I beheld even until the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame". According to sacrificial law, this offering must be female. Leviticus 4:32 "And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish". Malachi 1:14 "But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing..." Christians say Jesus was a Passover lamb. If this is true, there is no atonement and Christians are yet in their sin. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie.
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Susan,

Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion. I just hope one day you will get it settled in your heart. There have been many Men and Women who literally hated Christ. Once the Holy Spirit open their hearts and eyes they became new creatures. Some of them, like Paul, went on to be Pillars of the Faith. I hope the samething for you.

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Apr 22, 2017 20:10:05   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
susanblange wrote:
When the true Messiah comes, he will be executed by Christians and will also be made a lamb for a sin offering. Isaiah 53:7 "...he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter..." Isaiah 53:10 "...when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin..." Daniel 7:11 "...I beheld even until the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame". According to sacrificial law, this offering must be female. Leviticus 4:32 "And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish". Malachi 1:14 "But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing..." Christians say Jesus was a Passover lamb. If this is true, there is no atonement and Christians are yet in their sin. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie.
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Isaiah 53:10. Describes​ a male for this purpose...Lev 4:27-35 is a sin offering for individual forgiveness,in the singular..not for humanity as a whole.

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Apr 22, 2017 20:38:05   #
samtheyank
 
byronglimish wrote:
Isaiah 53:10. Describes​ a male for this purpose...Lev 4:27-35 is a sin offering for individual forgiveness,in the singular..not for humanity as a whole.


Bywrong,

You need to go to Church on Sudays. If you have a pastor that flocks a real Bible believing Chuch, you need for him to sit down with you and go over the atonement, election, forgiveness of sins and what Isaiah 53 is saying to those who read it-especially men and women who know and love Christ. I am not trying to be condescending, but helpful to you, hopefully, as a Believer.

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