fredlott63

Authors of the new testament

Only three of the twelve disciples wrote in the new testament, Matthew, John, and Peter. Matthew wrote the book named after him. There must be something special about Matthew because it is the only book in the new testament written in Hebrew. John wrote the gospel that bears his name, three epistles between Peter and Jude, and Revelation. Mark and Luke were not disciples. Mark was a teenager who hung around Christ and the disciples. Luke was a medical doctor and a scribe of Paul. Luke wrote gospel named after him and Acts. Most of the new testament was written by Paul. I feel the holy spirit choose Paul to replace Judas. The apostles choose Mathias but this is the last time his name is mentioned. Paul wrote Romans to Philemon. They are ordered from longest to shortest. The author Hebrews was unknown. The men assigned to assemble the new testament had agreed that every author had to have met Jesus. But Hebrews was scripturally accurate even though the author was unknown. To solve this dilemma Hebrews was assigned Pauline authorship. But the next day it was recanted but it was too late to change. James and Jude were half brothers of Jesus. Jude’s name was Judas. His name was shortened because of Judas Iscariot.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

For the most part I agree with you on authorship. However, many of the writings of the true disciples of Jesus were considered ineligible for the "canon" put together in Rome. The Gospel of Matthias mentioned by Origen of Alexandria (c. 185-254); by Eusebius (c. 263-339), who attributes it to heretics; by Jerome (347-420), and in the Decretum Gelasianum (late fifth century) which declares it apocryphal. However, it also comes at the end of the list of the Biblical Canon in the Codex Baroccianus 206, formerly in the library of Francesco Barozzi of Venice (1537-1604). So, only bits and pieces are available for review outside of the Vatican which houses many of the "lost" book.... in actuality, those books that did not support the sitting panel who made the ruling on what to include or put into the vaults to not see the light of day again. We know that there were 70 additional disciples of Jesus, many wrote their "stories." However, when you dig through associated text of the time, you will find glimmers of their traditions and teaching. For example, Matthias is reported in several documents having said: ""We must combat our flesh, set no value upon it, and concede to it nothing that can flatter it, but rather increase the growth of our soul by faith and knowledge.” (Stromateis, III, 4) If you want to know more about this disciple who was selected by the Holy Spirit as well as those who were hand selected by Jesus (according to the bible) I can recommend Wilton Barnhardt's book, Gospel (1993).

bahmer

You and (Zimariah) spelling seem to know so much about these things. What are your respective backgrounds as to your knowledge.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Everything I write can easily be found and verified... I cite my references. Is there a particular comment I have made that you would like additional references for? If so, let me know and I will be happy to supply it/them. If after reading them, and you disagree with the conclusions, I will happily discuss your point of view and who knows, I may have drawn the wrong conclusion or you may have objections to my sources. If so, I will evaluate both the source and myself.

I know that this does not answer your question about my background. I am not into self promotion or boasting and I certainly do not want others to blindly follow or agree with me because I profess to be an authority on any subject to include the bible. I hope you understand.

bahmer

I have just been reading yours and Zimariah and your conversing between yourselves and I find it very interesting. I am not in yours or Zimariah's camp as far as knowledge in these matters are concerned. I once sat in a class on the book of Revelations given by a pastor who I believe was also a professor who had a photographic memory and was totally in awe of him and his knowledge and you both remind me a lot of him. I will continue to read your writings back and forth and continue to learn. Thank you.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

This is kind of you to say, but I do not consider myself in such an elite class. I too, sit back and take in the information (on many subjects) discussed on OPP. I invite everyone who reads what I write to look up my reference and give their opinions. I am only 67 (optimistic view) and have, I pray, a few years remaining where I can learn from others. Therefore, I encourage you, and others, to jump in and give me your thoughts... I have an open mind and will gladly discuss (not argue) those opinions. The way I see it, I could be dead wrong because we all interrupt what we read filtered through our own experiences and past teachings. Just one last thing... your views are just as important as mine or everyone else; I value your input even if I should disagree. Papa taught me, you can disagree without being disagreeable! Again, thank you for your thoughtful words and anytime... jump in and tell me what you think!

bahmer

Will do, and by the way one of you sounds Jewish and the other is still undecided which of you is which are you the Jewish one?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Yes, I am Jewish by faith and race. In fact, I am a orthodox... I am observant. But, I respect and will defend true Christians! Meaning, those that follow the teaching of Jesus.

bahmer

Thank you that is what I had figured but wanted to make sure,

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You are most welcome.

bahmer

There was also another Jewish woman on here a couple of years ago who told me how much she learned at her papas feet and in his study and she was very interesting as well. Was that you by chance?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I am GinnyT....if that is to whom you refer. My Papa was wonderful and so patient with me. He has been physically gone for over 30 years, but I still hear his voice ring in my ears and it gives me both comfort and guidance. Momma was a kind woman, but so very impatient and stern! I could not have had better and keep in mind, I was an only child. She would have wanted me to learn to cook and such, I wanted to explore books and pick my Papa's brain. I often wished I had a sister so my Momma's expectations could have been realized. As it was, I was happy being in the library, working the fields, or working on my Papa's old car... anyplace my Papa was made me happy. He is the one who nicknamed me Pennylynn, as a child my hair was copper penny red, as the years added up it has now turned silver. I guess we all long for the days departed more than we appreciate the one we are living or the expectations of tomorrow.

bahmer

Ah I thought it was you but wasn't sure and I couldn't remember your name as I am getting old and forgetful. Forgive me for the forgetful part but nice to have you back will look forward to your posts. Take care.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

No worries, you and I have had many good conversations and you are not forgetful, it is not easy to keep the personalities straight on open forums. It was very good to speak with you again and thank you for reading my long, and as one person put it uninteresting contributions. Have a wonderful day...

bahmer

How can they be uninteresting to read they are from the root of Christianity and from a person who has intimate knowledge of the Jewish religion and all of its meanings to you and your people so awesome to talk to you again.