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Apr 26, 2017 11:09:02   #
JimMe
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, We don't have prayer in our schools because it is unconstitutional! I know of no public school lesson plans or programs that teach what you suggest. I see nothing wrong with teaching students about world religions. You can scream at the moon all night long, but the fact of the matter is Islam is a world religion that has hundreds of millions as followers. There are a small percentage of these billions of followers that are jihadists, many are violent. The overwhelming number of Muslims are non violent and thrilled to be here instead of having to live on some damned battle field, just like the rest of America.
My Synagogue was just threatened by a Christian white young man. He intended to enter the building and kill as many worshipers as he could. He was arrested by the FBI, before he could carry out his plan. I certainly don't blame the entire community of Christians or their religion for this maniacs ideas and plans. I suspect the same is true of the vast majority of Muslims. In both cases it only took one crazy psychopath to create an act of pure hatred!
Carol, We don't have prayer in our schools because... (show quote)



If we're going to teach about Isamic Religion or any Religion, I want Public Schools to teach Atheism... The non-practice of any established Religion...

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Apr 26, 2017 11:22:54   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
Carol, We don't have prayer in our schools because it is unconstitutional! I know of no public school lesson plans or programs that teach what you suggest. I see nothing wrong with teaching students about world religions. You can scream at the moon all night long, but the fact of the matter is Islam is a world religion that has hundreds of millions as followers. There are a small percentage of these billions of followers that are jihadists, many are violent. The overwhelming number of Muslims are non violent and thrilled to be here instead of having to live on some damned battle field, just like the rest of America.
My Synagogue was just threatened by a Christian white young man. He intended to enter the building and kill as many worshipers as he could. He was arrested by the FBI, before he could carry out his plan. I certainly don't blame the entire community of Christians or their religion for this maniacs ideas and plans. I suspect the same is true of the vast majority of Muslims. In both cases it only took one crazy psychopath to create an act of pure hatred!
Carol, We don't have prayer in our schools because... (show quote)


I believe they should not teach about one religion unless they have the content of other religions in their curriculum. What is good for one religion should be good for all.

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Apr 26, 2017 12:01:10   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
JimMe wrote:
If we're going to teach about Isamic Religion or any Religion, I want Public Schools to teach Atheism... The non-practice of any established Religion...


Actually, Atheism is the denial of the existence of God.

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Apr 26, 2017 13:37:16   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
QuestGirl, You can access the curriculum guide from your local Public Schools authority. Just give them a call and ask.
QuestGirl wrote:
It's in the curriculum these days.

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Apr 26, 2017 14:01:48   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Loki wrote:
Actually, Atheism is the denial of the existence of God.



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Apr 26, 2017 15:52:11   #
JimMe
 
Loki wrote:
Actually, Atheism is the denial of the existence of God.



Atheism is the denial of the existence of any god, and any of the religious tenants and practices towards those deities...

Atheism believes man-made tenants and practices, Laws and Regulations, are completely valid, but need to be seen as man-made...

And if religions are taught in public schools, the ideal that gods do not exist, and humans dictate our own lives should be taught as well...

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May 3, 2017 11:05:30   #
Lonewolf
 
take a look at this http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/apr/05/volusia-county-republican-party/did-us-department-education-introduce-islamic-indo/
if you mention 1 religion you need to mention all religions

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May 3, 2017 11:28:13   #
moldyoldy
 
desparado wrote:


Anyone who has studied the crusades in school, has studied Islam along with other religions.

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May 3, 2017 13:09:04   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
desparado wrote:


I believe you need to state your position on this subject. You made no such statement, so we do not know what your stance is on this subject. Please reply.

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May 3, 2017 13:55:05   #
JimMe
 
Louie27 wrote:
I believe you need to state your position on this subject. You made no such statement, so we do not know what your stance is on this subject. Please reply.




Louie27...

desparado's saying "... if you mention 1 religion you need to mention all religions..." is very much a statement... Public Schools need to be inclusive in their studies of religious histories and practices, not selectively biased based on Current Administrative Opinions...

The fact you do not understand this tells me you have a "blind spot" when evaluating what people talk about, at least when it comes to religions...

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May 3, 2017 16:40:09   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
JimMe wrote:
Louie27...

desparado's saying "... if you mention 1 religion you need to mention all religions..." is very much a statement... Public Schools need to be inclusive in their studies of religious histories and practices, not selectively biased based on Current Administrative Opinions...

The fact you do not understand this tells me you have a "blind spot" when evaluating what people talk about, at least when it comes to religions...


I also believe that the histories of all religions should be touched upon when studying religions. But in some schools, that I have heard of, go beyond just teaching the basics of the religion. Some have had the children pray like the Muslims and that is not equality of teaching, in my view.

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May 3, 2017 17:01:49   #
Lonewolf
 
I think it would be better if we didn't teach any religion in school maybe in college as an elective course
Louie27 wrote:
I also believe that the histories of all religions should be touched upon when studying religions. But in some schools, that I have heard of, go beyond just teaching the basics of the religion. Some have had the children pray like the Muslims and that is not equality of teaching, in my view.

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May 3, 2017 17:21:18   #
JimMe
 
desparado wrote:
I think it would be better if we didn't teach any religion in school maybe in college as an elective course




The problem with your thinking is that much of human history has been made because of religions being directly tied to Nations' Rulers... And we must teach the religious beliefs in order to explain the actions taken by the Rulers throughout human history... And we shouldn't deny teaching human history to the 97% of USA Citizens who do not attend college simply because it mingles religions throughout our history...

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May 3, 2017 17:34:19   #
moldyoldy
 
Louie27 wrote:
I also believe that the histories of all religions should be touched upon when studying religions. But in some schools, that I have heard of, go beyond just teaching the basics of the religion. Some have had the children pray like the Muslims and that is not equality of teaching, in my view.


I have seen claims of teaching muslim prayers in school, but never from any reputable sites.

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May 3, 2017 21:57:49   #
QuestGirl Loc: Jayhawk Country
 
moldyoldy wrote:
I have seen claims of teaching muslim prayers in school, but never from any reputable sites.


I live in Kansas. About 30 miles East of me is the Kansas City Metro Area, which includes cities/counties in Kansas and Missouri, where a somewhat prominent mosque resides.

About a year ago, at least one school district within this Metro area embraced Islam into their curriculum on some level. I will need to research and "hunt" for an article in the Kansas City Star, or other local papers to provide a link.

It could be, "Let's take a field trip to the local mosque." While no Christian churches are scheduled for field trips. It could be, "Let's invite an Islamic leader from the mosque to school." While no Christian leaders are invited to speak at schools. Neither one of these two scenarios is allowed, if of the Christian "culture".

Santa was even kicked to the curb. No Christmas allowed because it might be skewed as "offensive" to a Muslim or an LGBTQer or maybe an atheist. WTF!!!

Islam is infiltrating our school systems, whether you want to believe it or not. If you think Christians have bad evil beliefs, just wait.....

P.S. When visiting a mosque, girls must dress appropriately, too. You know, to be respectful and all, you know, to their "beliefs", to their "culture". There are no dress codes for Christian churches.

Insidious indeed.

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